Why does calzaghes resume get bagged, but roy jones gets a pass?

so he wasn't fortysomething :rofl


:rofl

 

toney and the first hopkins bout lay waste to any calzaghe fight.

 

28 years old is closer to prime than over 40 for most fighters in history, but we're talking about hopkins here. a fighter who didn't really come into his own until much later. age is just a number. if you can perform a the highest level late in age then it doesn't matter how old you are. lennox lewis was still performing at his best at 37 years old. how many heavyweights can you name in history that did that?

the hopkins that pascal fought was definitely slipping, but still had enough about him to win those fights. it was nearly 3 years after he fought calzaghe so obviously he was going to start showing signs. not even hopkins can fight forever. as you well know, 3 years can be the difference between being prime and being shot. it's happened countless times before.

neither hopkins or calzaghe were in their prime, but still very good fighters. hopkins had lost only a bit of stamina at this point in time but still had better stamina than most. calzaghe was starting to fray at the edges. his chin was still great but not what it use to be. his hands were all messed up. his balance wasn't anywhere near what it used to be. he wasn't as strong.
he was a more experienced fighter, yeah, with him being smarter, but he was more past his best than hopkins was.

forget about the calzaghe debate, i'm talking about cold hard facts. hopkins was still one of the best P4P fighters for a reason. not by reputation, but by beating top fighters.

and saying that hopkins wasn't beating much better fighters around the time he fought joe, is some of the craziest bull**** i've ever read. comments like this is the reason why it's hard to talk to americans. ****ing madness if you even so much as come close to believing that crap.

but hay, this is the kind of stupid **** that you have to put up with on this site. it's terribly sad.

 

you call them facts? ****ing imbecile.

 

it's not an excuse, it's the facts. i don't think joe was landing power shots at all. :-(

 

try again sonny boy. that was just talk. he was never going to come back. i remember the time very well. it was all bull****.

 

funny. i remember jones making fun of trinidad in the fight before joe. is that the class you're talking about?

and if you watch calzaghe vs jones you'll see that jones was going to start with his usual bull**** after he knocked joe down. but joe came back and clowned jones instead. you are a top class ****** if i say so myself.:deal

 

don't worry, he never gets anything right. he keeps on trying though.

 

Maybe because Jones Jr. trashed the bums he faced, while Calzaghe was getting bad stopppages, and even put on his arse by the trashman.

 

I’m a keen observer of styles and if you watched Hopkins since his fight with Jones ,his style didn’t change too much ..His Achilles heel has always been boxers ..JT ,JONES JR and Joe ..And who said anything about Hopkins beating much better fighters by the time he fought Joe?All I said was that Pascal dropped him same as Mercado ..Hopkins only looked like a monster against fighters that were plodders against boxers he struggled no matter what phase of his career it was ..

This is why the one that fought Joe wasn’t that much different than the one that fought Jones ..Only difference was experience but when in the ring with a pure boxer he usually got out worked ..This is why I always felt that Joe C would have always beat him due to work rate ..Same if he had fought Jones when he was still viable ..And Joe was more past it than Hopkins man you need to stop .That was a peak Joe coming off one of his biggest wins against Kessler prior ..Being further past than Hopkins man that's rich ! The problem was he was facing an elite level fighter this is why he couldn't steam roll through him like he did that novice of a boxer in Lacy ..

You should do yourself a favor and practice what you preach I mean if you want to talk about how sad it is to talk to Americans about certain topics than maybe you shouldn't make outrageous claims like Joe being further along than Bhop when they fought when Ex was in his mid 40's :good

 

Both Jones and Calzaghe were cherry pickers. Also 46 dominated???? When did Slappy Joe dominate Bernard Hopkins???? It took the tag team of Slappy , joe Cortez & 2 incompetant judges to steal victory from Hopkins. Slappy didnt want a rematch did he ROFL

 

****ing imbecile?

They're cold hard ****ing facts, and you and everybody on here, knows that they are!

 

Please tell me this dude is not being serious about Joe Cortez? :rofl

 

its a direct reference to the 1999 that Loudon told you about.

When will you be prepared to admit that Loudon got his date right about Collins looking at fighting Roy Jones?

 

correct, he was mere weeks away from being that.

'fighting past it fortysomethings' is a good way of paraphrasing Joe Calzaghe's late career almost to a tee.

Does this bother you because of

a. the difference in a few weeks or
b. because its true that your hero picked on faded grandads as the culmination of his career, when other more genuine fighters tend to face the grannies when they are themselves up and coming?