my score card for taylor vs chavez

Taylor was winning some battles; Chavez was winning the war.

 

i'll admit, i had this WIDE for taylor the first time and after subsequent viewings have tightened my scores and rewarded chavez's work.

however, i can see no scorecard favouring chavez. you simply cannot be outland 3-1 and expect to win rounds. taylor was the general, dictated clearly the first 8 rounds of action, landed combinations of power punches (i don't care if chavez is made of granite, a hard left hook is a hard left look) and reduced chavez to inside counters and single right hands.

chavez did more damage, absolutely. but a fight is scored by rounds and not as a whole and based on rounds, taylor took this at least 8-4

 

Taylor should have won if the fight went to the scorecards. But yeah, it certainly wasn't the shutout HBO was yelling it was.

 

:thumbsup

 

a lot of taylors punches were on gloves.

 

true. but the amount he was throwing, even if his accuracy was 25% he was outlanding chavez significantly.

i wonder if taylors condition and face post fight, difficult to see during the action, effects our subsequent re-scoring (it likely did mine)

 

While I'm not nearly as opposed to scoring 10-10 rounds as some here in classic, scoring 3 in a 12 round fight, (especially one that is not a killer on the judges) is too much.

And even as a big Chavez proponent, I think a score around 8-3 (or, at most, 7-4) is fair coming into the 12, and there's no way you can't give Taylor a huge stretch of the middle rounds. Julio did reasonably well in the first 2 and came on in the last few, but there's not much to give him in between.

 

i still gave taylor the first two but i agree with your post overall :thumbsup

 

Yeah, there's a reason I said Chavez did reasonably well, not that he necessarily won them.

My view was that while Taylor started stiff in the first round he nonetheless outworked Julio, but in the second round Taylor was quite inaccurate while Chavez landed a number of very nice little straight inside rights and one or two good lefts. Enough to swing the round his way, in my opinion.

IIRC, it was the 4th where Taylor really started taking over, and 4-8 or 9 (and almost certainly the 3rd as well) was ALL Taylor. (I think I might have do a rewatch and a scorecard for it now.)

 

This is my view.

Julio's damage was very cumulative. He wasn't doing enough damage per shot to trump the 2-4 he was getting hit with to land it.

 

Taylor was ahead but I agree that HBO embellished what he was doing for sure. His flurries were flashy and very fast. That catches people`s attention. Meanwhile Chavez was landing in between the real damaging punches.

First viewing I thought Taylor was robbed but after viewing it again I think Steele was correct. Meldrick coudve been run over by a pickup truck and had less damage.

 

My scorecard:

JCC-MT
1. 9-10
2. 10-9 19-19
3. 9-10 28-29 (Fair amount of back and forth, but I thought Taylor earned it)
4. 9-10 37-39
5. 9-10 46-49 (Taylor spends the whole round up close and personal with Chavez, first time Chavez does sustained damage. If you're trying to be really generous and only slightly unreasonable, you could call the round for Chavez. I didn't.)
6. 9-10 55-59
7. 9-10 64-69
8. 9-10 73-79
9. 9-10 82-89 (Like the 5th, Taylor spent this round up close and took damage, but did better work overall.)
10. 10-9 92-98
11. 10-10 102-108 (If you made me give it to one or the other, it would be to Chavez, and make the score 107-102 for Taylor going into the final round.)

 

Taylor clearly was winning... I see no way anybody with any knowledge of boxing and trying to be impartial could vote for Chavez winning. No way no how. Should it have been stopped in the question.