If today's HW division is so terrible, then why didn't Rahman win?

IMO, Rahman, was never that good in the first place

 

racially segragated era, Patterson era, Bum of the month era, Marciano's mafioso chosen opponents, Don King sock puppet theater era, alphabet soup era. Anybody who is resourceful enough or old enough can read back issues of Ring magazine et al and see that the heavyweight division has always been "at its all time worst." Basically, I'm simply restating what I have already written. Once you view different eras of heavyweight competition you realize that the sport has evolved over the years instead of degenerated.

Should we improve the heavyweight division by restricting nonwhite competitors and athletes origninating from the form USSR from competing in heavyweight title fights? Should we have mobsters control the business side of boxing like Carpo did way back when. Should Don King control the entire deck of alphabet champions and orchestrate every match to further his own interests instead of making good fights, would that bring back a superior heavyweight division?

 

Foreman avoid climbing up the ranks to get the belt.Just watch his resume,seriously Ken Lakusta?Pierre Coetzer? I respect George Foreman but if he was to win the lineal heavyweight properly,he wouldn't even make it past top 10 of the 90's contenders against the likes of Razor Ruddock

 

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Segregated era's have no effect on talent. "Bum of the month" was not an era but a 6 month period where Louis fought 6 times, 3 against top 10 fighters. We should be lucky enough to have ANY champion do that today. The Marciano era? You mean that era where there were multiple all time greats? The Don King era? Which one, the one where he made Ali-Frazier or the one where he had loads of talent in the 80's? You still have not addressed why this is the worst era with eroded skills (less body punching and true defense), decreased stamina and the top contenders unwilling to fight one another on a regular basis. I'm interested on hearing what you have to say about that.

 

Have you missed most guys here saying your opening post is highly flawed? You didn't even make any type of legitimate argument to support your position, just a terribly simplified post that shows you are closer to a noob, then someone who knows, and have paid attention, to the sport. You based your assertion on Hasim Rahman FFS... atsch

 

Contrary to what a lot of people say on here, the HW division was worse in many different Eras. the early 90s SUCKED. Michael Moorer a formed glass jawed light heavyweight won a title, then was knocked out by a fat past prime George Foreman, who couldn't even beat Axel Schulz or Tommy Morrison. Riddick Bowes career was ruined by a glass jawed, and glass heart fighter in Andrew Golota, yep. the 90s were great! the 90s HW division in general wasn't much better than it is today, it was just promoted more and had super popular fighters like Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.

 

Bowed had a glass jaw? He ate dozens of Bombs from Golota without going down. Glass nuts would be more appropriate. And the skill level today has fallen off as well as stamina and the willingness to take tough fights. Heavyweights today are afraid to risk their rankings.

 

I never said Bowe had a glass jaw. But..... a guy with a glass jaw, and a glass heart beat the crap out of him 2 times and took his career away from him.

 

Golota was a mental case, he didn't have a glass jaw. He was also as talented or morso than any contender today.

 

5/20 and 5/25 are not good 'stats'. You deluded moron.

Good 'stats' = 15/20 20/25. That's called dominant.

5/25 and 5/20 are just 'solid' numbers and doing well. Not dominance.

Where is Andre Ward of Russia, where is Bernard Hopkins of Ukraine? Where is Sergio Martinez of Russia?


You are almost 40 years old and nut hugging Eastern Euros to hide up the years of insecurity that build due to various life factors which you cried about before... I don't wanna expose those incidents, but you know what they are.

 

I agree with much of your post and see where you're coming from. Yes it has always happened, but its much more relevant because fighters choose to fight less often today.