If today's HW division is so terrible, then why didn't Rahman win?

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol: is it possible for somebody to be this ignorant?
     
  2. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    He had it to waste though, didn't he?
     
  3. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thing is you left out:

    Moorer
    Golota
    Michael Grant (stop s******ing. He's still fighting today isn't he? Where's he ranked?)
    Frank Bruno
    Oliver McCall (still ranked high until recently)
    Tony Tucker (insert other excellent boxers who loved coke a bit too much from the 90s as well)
    Maskaev. Remember him? The guy that couldn't make it in the 90s, but could in his late 30s against the current crop of fighters.

    The further down the list you go, the more wins in theoretical matchups you get.

    I'd argue Bruno would hammer Povetkin. He's made for him. Bruno didn't even make the list quoted for 90s fighters.
     
  4. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can we claim Chris Byrd as a 90s fighter?

    The current top 10 you've listed, I could pick 10 90s guys that could beat all of them (I'm thinking from lets say Tyson Fury down)
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Coming from a guy with Jimmy thunder in his AV. :rofl
     
  6. Manning

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    Lennox Lewis is the 3rd greatest HW of all time.

    Hasim Rahman brutalized and KO'd cold a prime Lennox Lewis.

    Hasim Rahman became the unified lineal champ in probably the second greatest era ever.

    An active under 40 year old Rahman fighting for a title last week in "the shittest era of all time" got bullied and stopped in two rounds by Povetkin.

    What gives?
     
  7. tezel8764

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    Rahman is old in this 'era'. Should of retired a long time ago, so should Holyfield & Briggs.

    Check out the interview:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-uU41s9sgA[/ame]

    TKO6 should be the real indicator of this era. The first instance in when the old champion defeated his predecessor. eg. Foreman-Frazier, Ali-Holmes, Holmes-Tyson etc.

    "at my worst, AT MY WORST I still beat him and look what I did to his face!"
    - Lennox Lewis (Last Unified Champion)
     
  8. Manning

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    How did an also ran non alphabet title holder from this current "shittest era ever" who is one of "the worst heavies of all time, stunned by a jab" Adamek manage to bully, dominate and KO a 90s legend in Golota who was only in his mid 30's?

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  9. Manning

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    That's an unfair list. That's the best combined from all of the 90's compared to the best this month of this era. To match up both decades would be much more fair.
     
  10. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great point about the other very good 90's hws. As far as that guy's list you quoted, first of all to place gaps in the 90's list without placing them in the today list is nutz - there ought to be a canyon after klitchko2 to haye and povetkin and then a big gap to the rest. K2 have some atg consideration and are great. Haye and Povetkin are fairly solid and could hang in the 90's imo. I haven't seen fury or pulev or some of the other newer names that are hopefully going to pick things up, but guys like arreola, adamek, 40 year old thompson are journeymen (hw's at least) in other eras. they would get wrecked by probably every fighter you and he listed (tho old foreman would have problems w adamek's movement). fast eddie could maybe hang. Solis has potential but he may never get it together. all in all there was much much more depth in the 90's, tho there does seem to be some hope going forward
     
  11. JAB5239

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    You're using one fighter to make an argument against an entire era, that's clown talk sand why you can't be taken seriously.
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golota was a legend? Guess you haven't been watching boxing very long. But are we talking about the same Golota who was off almost a year, came in t a career high weight and hadn't shown his talent since the Bowed fights? If you can't figure that out on your own you have problems
     
  13. anut

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    ok well get a time machine get a 39 yr old povetkin vs 39 yr old rahman....AND SEE WHO WINS DUMB FUK
     
  14. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rahman has gotten more breaks in his career than two or three other heavyweights combined. He never deserved the shot at Lewis, though admittedly made the most of it, but it was basically a fluke. Since then he has a controversial victory over James Toney, and losses to Holyfield, Lewis, Ruiz, Klitschko, Maskaev, and probably others I'm forgetting 'cause it's late and I'm tired. Rahman is not an adequate choice to represent "the previous era". He was a lucky puncher, an Ingemar Johansson with pretty good connections with the sanctioning bodies.
     
  15. dyna

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    In the past boxing gloves were thinner.