Someone explain this. There are hundreds of Eastern European boxers fighting 140-175

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Skittlez, Oct 2, 2012.


  1. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    The majority of elite amateurs still don't turn pro. Some examples of smaller fighters who didn't go pro or haven't gone pro yet.

    Lomachenko 2x Olympic Gold, 2x World, Val Barker
    Sapiyev Olympic Gold Val Barker
    Artayev Olympic Gold Val Barker
    Oleg Saitov 2x Olympic Gold Val Barker, 2x World Gold
    Tishchenko 2x Olympic Gold, World Gold
    Aloyan World Gold
    Selimov World Gold
    Vodopyanov World Gold
    Berynchyk Olympic Silver, World Silver

    Less common the lower you go but still well represented.
     
  2. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eastern Europeans are larger people. So for those who are interested in boxing around the world, more HW would come from that area. This is no different than more Thai boxers competing in the straw or fly weight division.

    I think Easter Europeans do compete well between 147-175, but its just that more competition exists in those divisions. If you count the number of boxers in each division between 147-HW, most likely HW would be the lowest.
     
  3. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    none of the three options are valid answers

    and you are a racist ****
     
  4. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    This...^

    They weren't able to compete legally until 93' and many of the countries suffer from post soviet syndrome and economic hardships that American and Brittons simply don't have...
     
  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a bunch of rubbish. These things tend to go in cycles, like the UK being dominant at super middle in the 90's. If not than how can you explain the dominance of Ali, Frazier and Foreman in the Olympics when it was fought with a pro style and the eastern Europeans were mostly older with more experience?
     
  6. rusak

    rusak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's very easy to explain. There were much more Americans involved in boxing, pro and amateur, than eastern Europeans (in amateur). Very few eastern Europeans boxed because there was no money or anything else in it. The American talent pool was much bigger because you could actually make money in boxing. And in America, the amateurs were considered a stepping stone to the pros.
     
  7. Dio

    Dio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because Slavic people are big, Slavic fighter dominate the HW division in Boxing
     
  8. rusak

    rusak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think Slavs are bigger than northern/western Europeans or blacks.

    You will see more Slavs in lower weight classes as the money becomes more plentiful. Like I said, only in the last few years have boxers in Russia been able to make any decent money. If you were an athletic 140-160 lber in Russia, going into pro boxing didn't make much financial sense. You would be able to make much more money in soccer or just a good paying regular job.
     
  9. Ncc84

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    It's also not just about the size of the eastern euros. There are successful EE boxers in the amateurs, but fewer of the best lower weight EEs are turning pro compared with heavyweight. A possible reason for this could be that there is little interest in those weights in countries like russia so there is less opportunity to make a lot of money as a pro, so they are better off as amateur.

    Looking at welterweight for example, since 1988. There are 3 EE gold medalists in the olympics, none of whom turned pro.
    There were 8 silver and bronze medalists, only 4 of these turned pro, two of which became world champions.

    So out of these 11 EEs who found success at the olympics since 1988 only 4 turned pro, and yet this still produced 2 world champs, one world title challenger, and a european champion.
    So is it hard to believe that if more of the best EE turned pro there would be a lot more success for EE at the lower weights as well as hw and cruiser?
     
  10. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry EE's don't come in midget size weight classes. Golovkin is 5'11 and considered "tiny" in eastern europe. EE's are big alpha men, not small "slicksters"

    The blacks are getting mad because they are getting the **** kicked out of them by superior EE boxers. It's not about race though, it's about who sacrificed more and who put more work in the gym.
     
  11. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is what the future of boxing above 160 looks like, and pirog isn't even special

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  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you supply a link to support this claim? Because as far as I know top athletes from communist countries were treated like kings and lived much better than the common person in those countries. That would give incentive to any young athlete.
     
  13. Skittlez

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    No ******.. lol.

    Boxing is nothing compare to 'Soccer'. You are so dumb it's sad.

    the most athletic Eastern Euros at 160-175 are playing for big money football clubs in the Serie A, Premier League, Bundesliga and La Liga.

    Soccer is king in Europe and that draws away the talent pool from 160-175.
    GGG have the perfect soccer body and there are dozens of Gennady's making MILLIONS kicking the ball around..

    ****ing moron. I guess Andriy Shevachenko is not considered an 'alpha' male to you? Despite him being a national hero 10x what K2 is to the Ukraine.

    Nobody give a **** about boxing in Europe when the Champions League is on. It is what it is.

    5'10-6'1 Athletes in Europe was and always will be king.. Because the #1 sport for them is 'football'.


    Also stop obsessing over 'size' man... You are 5'11 yourself and you weight like 150. You are a pathetic human being lol. I can lift all 150 pounds of you up and squash you like Hulk vs Loki.

    You also have a girl's back.. Lol, you even posted it like 20 times on this forum