Do people really rate Roy Jones win over Bernard Hopkins?

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  1. knockout artist

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  2. bailey

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    Down to opinions I suppose.
    You rate a win over an Olympic gold medallist going for his first title against an unknown fighter who hadnt beaten anyone of note and who couldnt win his next title opportunity, better than a win over a fighter who was a world champ, had over 20 world title fights having his best career wins of Tarver, Wright and Pavlik.
    As said its down to opinions
     
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  3. bailey

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    Lots of fighters get rated one and two in a governing body ranking, that doesnt say alot.
    Who had either of them beat at the time?
     
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  4. bailey

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    What a long winded load of rubbish without substance.

    So do you rate a fighter by the title Loudon? DM beat the man, was wrongly removed from his WBA & IBF LHW title and beat the wrongly stripped WBC title against the fighter Jones ducked.
    But you just look at his title :lol:, when they fought similar opponents.
    So Loudon thinks the title makes the fighter :patsch.
    What belt did Pacquiao win off of Cotto?
    What belt did W Klitschko hold in the unification with Haye?

    As for this alledged claim you make of Eubank, show me a source because I have seen several where Eubank has said Jones wouldnt fight him and can find sources
     
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  5. lefthook89

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    its better then calzaghe's thats for sure
     
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  6. bailey

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    Show me where I have bashed them on this thread?
    I said at the start it was a good win

    I dont support cheating

    Exactly Loudon makes up the excuses years later and believes what he writes is gospel.
    I read on another thread recently how someone said its all just his opinion and he had no back up to anything written and he has just done exactly the same thing again and made Turbotime look a dummy by agreeing to all these excuses that he does not have legit cases for
     
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    Down to opinions I suppose.
    You rate a win over an Olympic gold medallist going for his first title against an unknown fighter who hadnt beaten anyone of note and who couldnt win his next title opportunity, better than a win over a fighter who was a world champ, had over 20 world title fights having his best career wins of Tarver, Wright and Pavlik.
    As said its down to opinions
     
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    Bailey you got done in on the Enzo thread and ran away as usual .
     
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    They fought similiar opponents for sure, and by and large Jones looked INFINITELY better in handling them.

    The fact that Dariusz lost to Gonzales says a lot.
    Having a tough time with Hall, who Jones put on an absolute exhibition against.

    It was up to Dariusz to come to America. Thats where the money was. Jones held all the main titles.

    Why should the champ go to Germany to fight a guy who has a little known title and when he can make more money in america.

    Why didnt Dariusz just get on a plane and come to America?
     
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  10. bailey

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    :lol::patsch Lewis did fight Morrison and fought Holyfield when Evander was finally willing, same as Tyson who he chased for years.
    You have selfpwned though, when you say why didnt Lewid fight Holmes and Foreman when they were old and then say a younger Holyfield who was younger when Lewis fought him, that what those two would have been, also not forgetting Lewis wasnt that young :oops:
     
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    wow, to constantly defend one man you've never even met in your life must get exhausting. i can see why you'd be reduced to copy and pasting :patsch
     
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    ...as for not making "the big fights"

    He fought far better comp that Dariusz.

    In his career Jones fought

    Toney
    Hopkins (x2)
    Johnson(Reggie and Glen)
    McCallum
    Hill
    Ruiz
    Woods
    Gonzalez
    Calzaghe
    Griffen(x2)
    Tarver(x3)

    Even the likes of Lucas,Panzienza,Harding,Malinga,Castro,Del Valle,Telesco,Hall were all top ranked contenders.

    Heck,even Trinidad was a name at least.
    To say he never fought anyone,IS.JUST.****ING,STUPID.
     
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