Mikkel Kessler is the best fighter Ward has fought

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Boxing101, Oct 6, 2012.


  1. Boxing101

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    Dawson beat a shop worn injury prone Hopkins. Which is Dawsons best win. And Dawson was a zombie at 168. You can't count that as a legitimate win. Maybe bias HBO/Showtime will. The thing is now if Dawson looks stale at 175, they will say Ward ruined him. And will say he would have beat him easily at 175, too.

    Andre Ward is a supposed ''elite'' fighter. He has ''elite'' level skills as he can change his game on a whim. He can switch and keep composed from orthodox, unorthodox and to southpaw fairly easily. Or use one hand comfortably and pot shot.

    But here's the thing. His best two wins on paper have question marks over them.


    He intentionally used his head to hurt Kessler many times in the fight. He very sneakily dragged his head to the side as he fought kessler on the inside.

    It was his second test of his career. So it was all or nothing. He had the big crowd, and you could see Kessler was feeling the pressure.

    So he then wins by TD. After the fight everyone says he did a better job at beating Kessler than Calzaghe did.

    Well, atleast Calzaghe fought Kessler at fair terms. Although, Calzaghe fought him in his homeland, too. It was still a fair process leading upto the fight and on fight night.




    I think Kessler was the best guy he fought.

    I don't count Froch. A shot Taylor was beating him fairly easily up until the later rounds of their fight. Carl Froch is a great journeyman, though.

    Beating the great Jean Pascal. His best win.

    Jermain Taylor losing twice to Pavlik, redeeming himself against the hype job Lacy, and then beating Froch up until his stamina problem occured.

    Froch lost his first fight to Dirrell easily. Froch was hitting air, but fortunately for him, Dirrell acted like an idiot and lost to home cooking.

    He then goes on and fights Kessler and loses to him by UD. Which i think is unfair. Sort of. I think Carl would say it was razor thin close.

    He then fights the small slow plodding middleweight Arthur Abraham. Who was tailor made for him.

    He then fights Glen Johnson who anyone can beat aslong as they have moderately good stamina.

    So i don't rate him as a good win for Ward.



    I'm not hating on Ward. Ward is ''elite'' but he hasn't been completely honest to the boxing fans.

    But hey aslong as he keeps winning and fighting in and around Oakland he should be ok.
     
  2. Andy McNab

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    If you don't count Froch you are a bit of a tit.
     
  3. Boxing101

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    Why?

    Froch has no boxing skills. He's a limited slugger.
     
  4. Andy McNab

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    He has probably the most respected resume of any fighter in the last 3-4 years.
     
  5. Boxing101

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    His best win was Jean Pascal. Lucian Bute was a showtime protected hypejob.


    Froch has no boxing skills. Don't be bias because your british.

    He's a limited slugger.

    When he fights a good boxer he loses easily.
     
  6. JMP

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    **** yourself
     
  7. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Kessler hasn't beaten anyone close to old ass Hopkins...He's a Euro hypejob.
     
  8. des3995

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    I'd rate Kessler and Froch about equal on Ward's resume, then Dawson because of the weight issue.
     
  9. Boxing101

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    Hopkins has nothing to do with it.

    I'm saying Wards best win was Kessler.

    Not a weight drained Dawson.


    If you say Kesslers a euro hypejob then Froch is.
     
  10. SouthpawJab

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    Then that's really bad for Ward to have a one eyed one handed eurobum for his career best win.
     
  11. Boxing101

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    Well it must be because it's his best win.
     
  12. janeschicken

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    Froch/ Kessler takes place in England and Froch takes it easily by decision. It was a close enough fight to go either way. Anyone who disrespects Froch's abilities is a ******.
     
  13. pejevan

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    Did I not say that the 168 division is a bit overrated almost 2 years now? You have fighters who have never proven themselves and some 40 year old still rated too high.
     
  14. BlackBrenny

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  15. BlackBrenny

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    Man ya don't achieve what Froch achieved in the amateur circuit with no boxing skills. let alone the pro ranks