If Mayweather fought and beat Martinez at 150, they would say Martinez was drained!

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  1. Boxing101

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    If Pacquiao beat him at 150, they would say he's the GOAT. It might not be like that but it just might work that way.

    Essentially it's a lose-lose situation for Floyd in how he has the habit of waiting long perioids to fight an opponent.

    he often makes it hard for himself by not taking the fight at the right moment.

    He does himself no favors at all. Which is a shame because i think he could beat Martinez.

    If' it's at 153 they will say he's drained. Even 154 where Martinez was, and perhaps might still be accustomed to.
     
  2. AnthonyW

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    At 150lbs, a victory over a Martinez at this point is pointless, he can't make that weight safely IMO. Whether it be Mayweather or Pacquiao, it takes a lot away from the victory in comparison to a victory over him at 154lbs (which I believe he will only go down to if there is a big money bout).
     
  3. Elite

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    For Martinez 150 is a weight drain. So it would be a pointless win.
     
  4. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    They'd say Martinez would be drained because... Martinez would be drained
     
  5. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    yeah they would say that because he is obviously is way beyond 150 pounds now.
     
  6. Hands of Iron

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    If Pacquiao beat him at 150, I'd consider it equally worthless.

    I really doubt that's even on the table anymore. DiBella and Co. came out and said that before they were even secured the Chavez, Jr. fight. Now they've got a little exposure and Canelo's trainer is making statements about a fight being a definite possibility (It isn't Bob or Oscar, but nobody even expected that). They've got their foot in the door now.
     
  7. Boxing101

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    I couldn't fit 154 into the title.

    You missed my point of the thread entirely anyway. They would say he was drained if it was 154. Any excuse.

    If it was Pacquiao they would say it was a legitimate win.

    At the end of the day Dibella would let Martinez fight at 150 anyway.

    If pacman fought him they would say it was legit win. Casuals top prank fans and *******s would.

    Lots of people think Oscar was a legit win for Pac, when he wasn't.

    It's all catchweights will Pacman.
     
  8. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    This fight was close to getting done right? haha
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    when pac fought cotto 3 years ago, *****s said he was shot. when floyd fought cotto, cotto was unshot and in the best shape of his life.

    when ortiz fought maidana, he was a quiter. when floyd fought him, he became a young hungry lion. when he fought again, he's a quitter again.
     
  10. Uncle Rico

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    Err, that's probably because he would be? And the same would go for Pac?
     
  11. Boxing101

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    Well, he would be. But if Martinez fought Pac at a catch weight it might be a different story. Even though his promoter would let him fight there. But they wouldn't really say that if it was Pacquiao. As he often fights at catchweights.

    Loads of boxers of old jumped weights all the time. Even now.


    If he beat Martinez at 154, there would be another excuse.

    Always something.

    Fighters of yesteryear didn't make excuses like the ones today.

    Pac gets away with murder.
     
  12. str1

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    It doesn't matter wether its Pac or Floyd, Sergio at 150 will be drained and a win there won't mean much. And as for Pac/ODLH, since when is 147lbs a catchweight? Don't you remember Pac moving up TWO divisions to MEET Oscar at 147, where Oscar was only dropping ONE division? You can't expect Pac to go from 135 to 154 to fight Oscar
    now can you? It's like expecting Floyd to move three divisions to SMW to face Ward. It's not even expected of Floyd to go to 160 as he has clearly topped off already.
     
  13. Boxing101

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    It's only two divisions, actually. But yeah i would expect Mayweather to fight him at 160.


    Pacman , or Arum wants everything under his rules. Which is apparently obvious.

    I think it's no wonder Roger Mayweather thought he was on peds after the Hatton fight.

    The win against DLH obviously meant a lot for most casual fans, who are the fans who bring the money in.

    Even though he was wrecked. But you could say the weight draining excuse was just an excuse. You could say he would have beat Oscar prime easily.



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    There's always been corruption in boxing. There's just smarter ways to make fights now than back in other eras. Today you have all these fancy supplements, and undetectable peds,...etc...

    There was performance enhancers back then. And they were far less complex chemically as the one's today. The corruption back then generally centered in other areas like match fixing, intimidation, rigged/paid off judges,...etc... rather than the modern day corruption we witness now.
     
  14. Hands of Iron

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    This is madness. :rofl
     
  15. Uncle Rico

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    How the **** would it?

    This is the same Pacquiao who gets criticized for jumping up two weight divisions for Oscar. If he can't get away with that, then you can sure as hell bet he wouldn't get away with forcing Martinez to come down to 150. You're confusing "allowed to get away" with just fanboys making excuses/justifications - something which some Floyd fans would do if Mayweather did the same thing. In fact, it's already being done, as some are riding on the "but it's Martinez that's asking for it" explanation.