If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward?

Give Joe a break people. Joe asked for the Crown Jewels as an advance so he could use the cash to get the best therapy money could buy to cure his fear of flying!! DUH!!!

 

I bet you picked Lacy before that fight. Like 90% of Americans.

 

Yes, fighters need to be paid to compete, but purposely pricing yourself out of a fight shows no desire to actually compete.

Bailey is under the delusions that Joe was actually on the radar over here and ducked by RJJ. The quote from Joe proves that even if Joe was on the radar, he would price himself out of the fight.

 

Check out Skittlez opening post from his thread earlier this week pal

 

I think its fair to say we all picked Lacy, he was a massive punching wrecking ball, that looked like he could knock down walls.
If I were to watch the Ward/Boone fight and the Lacy/any title defence then I think you could get swayed to think Lacy is going to score a stunning KO, but a fighter like Ward would find a way

 

I can't speak for bailey, but I've not seen people suggest that Jones ducked Calzaghe? When was the fight ever really viable? How can Joe price himself out when he was never made an offer? Finally, Jones was a star, any fighter wanted the crown jewels to face him, even his mandatories like Richard Hall would have received career high paydays or 'the crown jewels' when they faced Jones

 

I've never heard of Calzaghe pricing himself out of a fight.

On the other hand we know that Jones deliberately priced himself out of a fight with Micheal Nunn.

We know that Hopkins deliberately priced himself out of fighting Calzaghe in 2002.

 

Personally, I don't get any of this 'Ward ducked Bute' stuff.

Ward said Bute needed to beat a higher calibre of opponent, and then they'd talk. Why duck a guy who hadn't beaten high quality opp, only to seek to fight him after he had done so? Does it make sense?

I could see people saying so, if Bute had won and Ward wouldn't fight him.

It can really only be 1 of 2 things. 1) Ward thought Bute would win or he thought Bute would lose.

If Bute wins, Ward has a more seasoned and a truly viable rival for the top spot in the division.

If Bute loses, Ward is proven right and Bute is proven not to be ready to be a serious candidate. But if he thought this would happen, why duck him in the 1st place?

Ward goes on to sign on to mix it up with a more proven, more dangerous fighter in Dawson, (even though the weight would ultimately prove to be too much for Dawson.)

Seems to me that the timing of it, with Ward's broken hand shelving him for a while, lent for a natural opportunity for Bute to beat a named guy(Froch, Kessler) to build his resume, whilst building the stakes for Ward-Bute. Froch had other ideas.
At least that's how I see it.

 

I dont think Jones ducked Calzaghe just chose not to go after him because he wanted the HW title. Jones himself said thats why he didnt fight Calzaghe because he was after the HW title instead. I dont blame Jones for that.
Not sure what you are on about? But yes I think Jones chose not to fight Calzaghe when he was called out, but as said dont blame Jones when he could win a HW title

 

Joe's crippling hand & wrist injuries arent ever gonna improve, he was advised to retire before the Hopkins fight.

If he was 100% healthy, could get down to 168 safely & was being paid a fortune then why not. Sadly, none of those will ever happen.

 

**** no! Joe Joe's got all his crazy-ass fanboys believing exactly the way he wants them too. Coming out of retirement and getting dominated, then destroyed crushes thousands of lunatic fantasies. And probably leads to many suicides that could have otherwise been avoided. Best to stay in retirement, and let the lunatics have their dreams.

 

Hey B, Jones didn't go after Calzaghe, because who was Calzaghe at the time to be gone after by a guy of RJJ's status? The onus would have been on Calzaghe to go after Jones, who wss the moneymaker. Joe had nothing to offer Jones.

Hadn't Jones previously stated that he had looked in on Calzaghe early on, but ended up dismissing him because Calzaghe backed off on his level of opposition?

 

He said the Eubank win got his attention.
Calzaghe did call out Jones to no avail. Others who didnt call out got a chance like WBO MW champ O Grant, but Calzaghe was high risk low reward

 

IIRC, Jones did say that he dismissed Calzaghe after because he backed off on his level of competition though.