How were old timers so good?

Floyd is more skilled than Luis Manuel Rodriguez. This is a fact. I think it might be in the Bible.

 

Magna has hit the nail on the head. In terms of longevity, I wonder if modern science has aided fighters to fight longer on then before. That, and the fact that fighters don't fight quite as often and thus don't get worked out. Moore had close to 200 fights. Hopkins has less than 70 I think. Hopkins is nearly 50 and capable of schooling fighters that clearly lack craft (Pascal). Moore was 45 by the time of the Clay fight. How much of a discrepancy in craft was there during Moore's LHW reign than Hopkins? Is it just a case of Moore wearing down quicker because of the amount of fights he had. Hopkins also gets the benefit of modern science. There are weak points in virtually all eras, and at varies division by division. I would agree with the consensus that things appear to be clearly getting worse, though.

 

It depends when you're talking about. 40's to 90's are at a similar skill level. The 30's and the 00's are a step below overall. The 20's and before fighters were absolute dogshite

 

Come on now...

 

I think it has more to do with schooling. Fighters were schooled in all dimensions of fighting before they became pros. The process of teaching a fighter was more complex. The sport has become so diluted with incompetent trainers and techniques that its very difficult to even name a fighter who is complete anymore and thats why in the last couple decades youve seen fighters who should have no buisness even fighting anymore, still beating young, supposedly prime "champions"

 

Its true Flea. There is no.blueprint and all that crap.

 

Why won't you and Lester stop trying to wind me up?!? :|

 

old time fighters often had more than one "ring name".

Dives occurred far more regularly in the old times.

I don't think the boxing commissions were as stringent about keeping unqualified fighters out of the ring. I believe there were several one-eyed fighters thumping around boxing rings. That simply would not happen today.

In order to get a state comparable to the good ol' days, we need to; racially segragate boxing, prohibit boxers from the former USSR and Cuba from competing in the professional boxing game, have some mafiosos control the rankings and have a single promoter monopoly whole divisions with his fighters.

Also, these newer boxers need to quit using their lefts so much and quit moving laterally so much. They need to lunge in at their opponents like they used to do in the old days.

 

Cuban boxers are prohibited from competing in the pro' game. If anything the old timers had it right in that respect, 'til the revolution.

 

There is another issue here.

At any given point of time, it is statisticaly unlikley that the best fighter in the history of a given weight class will be active.

So obviously there are going to be more great fighters who can be termed "old timers", than great fighters who are curently active.

Fighters active at the moment include Pacquio, Mayweather, Ward and Klitschko junior.

 

I agree..It should encourage fighters

 

hopkins also didnt have to fight cassius clay

 

broner with his legs as wide as they are will have a lot of problems with guys who can move around the ring, and he looks and waits for a perfect shot - he will lose a lot of rounds that way. one day he will lose one round too many that way