Wlad looks like a tank

Males are not full grown till 23-25.

The science aside, 21 is a boy, deal with it troll.

Arnold used roids since 18, he was only 225 at 21 but 245 at 27. 20lbs son, boy to a man.


G Foreman 214 at 20, 231 at 27, 100% natty and 17lbs gained.

 

The AVERAGE male stops growing at 22, that is the average. Some grow for longer periods, some less. And why would we put science aside? 21 is a physically mature man, deal with it son. Seems like some people just don want to hear the truth. Answer me this one question, smart guy. Can you say with 100% certainty that Wlad has never juiced?

 

I love your fake stats.

Wlad is 100% natty, I say this because I juiced for over a decade as did most of my friends. I know a drug user when I see one.


BTW, long bone growth is typically finished by 21, but other development continues till 23-25. That aside, no boy is full grown at 21, even if they have been lifting weights since 14 like a madman.

 

Fake stats? Look it up yourself. And just because you did something doesn't mean you can tell if someone else is doing it, especially through television or pictures. But thanks for loving how UNOBJECTIVE you are by claiming Wlad 100% natural when there is NO way for you to know that. :yep :good

 

looks like steward's stealing some of ariza's shakes....:think

 

There is no way to know if Wlad is 100% natural, but there is no doubt in my mind it is biologically POSSIBLE to achieve Wlad's physique in a natural way through diet, dedication and exercise over a 8-10 year period.

Many people in this thread look at these pics of Wlad which are taken in a pumped state during heavy training and argue they look unnatural. Look at pics of Wlad when he's cold, in some photoshoot. He appears perfectly natural.

 

As he surely could be and hopefully is. But there is reason to speculate given his age and the history of sports in general.

 

Given that you have good genetics, yes, you can achieve a physique similar to Waldo's through diet and excercise. That being said, anyone who would be the least bit surprised to find out that Waldo or any other professional athlete had been using PEDs is a complete ****ing moron.

 

Well I don't like to speculate about serious allegations unless I have proof. Speculating without proof is like sentencing someone without a fair trial and without any means of defending himself.

Innocent until proven guilty.

If an athlete has a physique that we all agree upon is attainable by natural means then why on earth would we start speculating if he used PEDs? PEDs are not a necessity to achieve Wlad's physique. Why would one allege he still used them unless there is definite proof to substantiate the allegations?

 

Give the man a prize for common sense that has been lacking in people saying "he has never juiced". You don't know Wlad, so you don't have a clue.

 

PED use among professional athletes is as common as homosexuality among them. We all know it exists but we don't like to talk about it.

But why point the finger at someone and call them PED abuses (or homosexuals) unless you have concrete proof? They could as well be natural (or heterosexual). I agree though: PED abuse is a problem and it has been for decades. We have to do two things: We have to acknowledge the problem exists, but at the same time we have to stop screaming "PEDs!!!!" when we see a picture of a jacked athlete.

Disclaimer: I don't intend to start a discussion or insult anyone for their sexual preference. Just trying to make a point in the PED discussion.

 

Go rewatch some Wlad fights if you think Pulevs jab is anywhere near as good as Wlads

 

The reason to speculate is that very rarely do you see that kind of physique at 37, even with hard work daily. Not impossible, but certainly with a chance of improbable.

 

Try about 100x as common, especially in a sport like boxing where drug testing is almost non existant. :yep