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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Actually I was missing the point with Abril.

    He did clearly beat Rios, but that's not the question is it?

    When JMM vacated his claim in 2011, it's more a question of who was a better fighter between Rios and DeMarco and DeMarco comfortably makes the weight and beats his opponents within the limit, whereas Rios wasn't doing.

    I reckon I'm fully onboard actually with the rankings (I love the ranking of Huck as that was a poor move by The Ring considering his intention to move back down)
     
  2. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmmm..... Sooo, not 1 member from Puerto Rico? I think PR contributes a bit more than 1/25th to the boxing world and as so, it should be represented by at least a member:verysad... That's it, you hurt my feelings!! Btw, like somebody said above, what's up with no Guatemala OR Burkina Faso representation also??? That's it, I side with Arran.. Officially done with your site.;)
     
  3. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    he will probably say im just yankee bashing but the point is...whats the point of this site if it offers nothing new? Its just offering more of the same. Skewed rankings in favour of US fighters...why? because 11 of the 25 are americans. If he was doing it properly he would have an equal amount of voters per nation, or at least the boxing nations that matter. Instead we will just see Ring Magazine type rankins where people like Williams, Lacy, Pavlik and Dawson all make it with ease having achieved **** all (at the time) while other fighters who have been around years, maybe even years as champions, that arnt from the USA dont even get a look in because the latest HBO hypejob has been placed above them.
     
  4. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which rankings on this list are skewed? Which fighters are overrated and which non-US guys are being overlooked? You might actually have a point if you had anything substantive to say about the rankings themselves instead of the individuals making them up and all the terrible evils committed by other rankings organizations.
     
  5. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No pascal at light heavyweight?
     
  6. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    The rankings are very good imo, which particular American boxers in those rankings is undeserving of his place.

    Like it or not, America is still the biggest & most lucrative market & most of the major fights happen there.

    FWIW there are more top10 ranked Mexicans or Europeans than Americans, there is no bias behind the rankings imo
     
  7. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ok ill start with the fact that Helenius is in the top 10 but Chisora isnt, now everyone in the world knows Chisora won that fight. All im saying is...if Chisora was american and he had been robbed the way he was.....im betting he would be in that top 10 list right now, with all the americans (11) saying ''he won that fight''.

    In the SMW we have Andrew Dirrell placed 4th...a guy whos done **** all who lets be honest..if he was British, french, aussie would not be there, thats a fact. He should have at least two others above him.

    Why does Mayweather (my favourite fighter) get ranked in two seperate rankings?

    Kell Brook......below Randall Bailey and Paulie Malinaggi? Would this happen if he was American and had the HBO hype machine behind him? American and hes top 4 already.

    Why is the American drugs cheat Lamont Peterson placed above Khan? hes a drugs cheat, who once again if he had been foreign would never be top 3.......even having Garcia as number one is debatable...the guy lost every second of every round v khan before he got a lucky punch when he wasnt even looking...he won though thats all that matters...but its debatable. Had it been a fluke punch from someone else with a different passport....
     
  8. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes it does appear objective , seeing as theres no broner pushed up the top end of the lightweight rankings and that gavin rees is given some credit
     
  9. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hah, you beat me to it. I was gonna say, it must be a mistake, I mean, no Broner?? I don't like him but u got to admit he definitely ranks at least top ten in his division by 99.9% of standards... Also no WVazquez jr?? Just these 2 off the top of my head so far, otherwise mostly good & agreeable rankings!!
     
  10. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A European fighter who won a robbery is above the European fighter he robbed and this is supposed to be compelling evidence of American bias?

    American Tim Bradley is not ranked above the person he won a robbery against BTW.
    Beat the person ranked 5th and fought the person ranked 1st closely. Don't just say "someone" should be ranked above him, specify who.
    I don't particularly understand this either, but it's hardly damning since most place rank him in two classes because he's indicated he'd fight at welter again.
    This isn't controversial at all. Both have better wins in their last fights than Brook has had in his whole career. Even Sky has the two ahead of Brook.
    Another completely unsupported counterfactual. The official result of that fight still stands
    You clearly watched a different Garcia-Khan fight than me. Further, if nationalism alone explains the ranking of him, why didn't the organization simply hotshot him to the champion the way The Ring did? And again, if not Garcia, who should be number 1, Matthysse for beating lightweight Soto and inactive Ajose?
     
  11. DrMo

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    Inactivity, he hasnt fought since last May

    Quote from the tbrb charter-

    "In those instances where a contender is inactive for one year or more, he will be removed from the rankings until such time as he fights and earns back a place in the top ten. Exceptions for medical issues will be considered"
     
  12. SJS19

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    Who decides the rankings? Their pretty close to how I'd have things.
     
  13. Arran

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    it was americans that hyped him, some sort of great white hype, nobody else did.
     
  14. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    so a guy tests positive for drugs but it still stands...if amir had won and trested positive would it? would it bolox, for some reason americans dont seem to find drugs a problem the way the rest of the world does as long as their winning
     
  15. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hardly anybody in the US gives a **** about Helenius either. The biggest American TV he's been on is Epix for crying out loud. You'd have a point if someone like Seth Mitchell was in the top 10 but not Helenius. I disagree with his being ranked at all but this isn't the least bit damning when it comes to bias.