Groves and Degale are both poor defensively, they are not 'slippery customers' You are a spastic. Wow, what a idiotic statement. Froch is far superior to both Groves and Degale, he could completely outbox them on the back foot or walk them down and knock them out if he chose too. Froch is nothing special but he's several levels above these guys.
I think Groves would put up a decent effort vs Froch and could make it difficult. Froch does not like people who move away from him predominantly and Groves can actually box whilst moving backwards. It's all a bit ungainly though andwith Froch's awkward style too, it could be a bit of a stinker. But I think Carl's non existant defence could see him land quite often. However, his power just isn't good enough to make a significant dent in Froch and I'd see him losing if they fought now. Degale doesn't move as effectively and I could see Froch walking him down and putting a bit of a beating on James. I imagine it could be pretty similar to Froch-Bute.
I'm one of Carl's biggest fans, if you look through my posts about the guy you'll see I have a certain amount of man love for him Carl is a genuine world class fighter, but there's nothing really special about him skill wise, that's what I meant. His main asset is his engine, he's a 15 round fighter IMO, add to that he's a fairly skillful boxer with a very good chin.
The thing is Groves defence is just as poor as Carl's, George gets hit very often at Domestic level and IMO has a shaky chin, Froch put Groves down heavily in sparring and they had to stop it, it was about 18 months ago though when George was still a novice. Groves looks really uncomfortable under pressure and exerts too much energy with his movement, Carl would take him out in 6 IMO.
I think that's still doing him a disservice BA. I think he's very skillful fighter (not saying in an arsey "he must be skilled as he's a pro fighter" way), he fought a few fights without utilising his skills (Dirrell/Kessler) and that seems to have made people's minds up. Bute/Abraham and his World AM Bronze show he is more than "fairly skillful" IMO. Thing is you're comparing him to Ward (arguably the most 'skilled' in the game), look at Dawson, even he didn't look "skillful" against Ward. Jesus how many times can I say skillful.
Anyone saying this would be a 50/50 fight at this stage of their careers need to give their heads a ****ing wobble. Froch would destroy him early.
Froch vs DeGale would be a better fight. Froch vs Groves would depend on how Groves fought, if he's on the back foot it'd be shite, nearly as bad as the Dirrell horror show. If he plants his feet and throws bombs it'd be a belter like the Pascal fight. Froch vs Bellew would be the best fight of the possible domestic matchups. In this instance Froch would be the lesser skilled fighter in the contest.
Whys it an idiotic statement? It's an opinion you moron, it is generally known by anyone other than delusional people that Froch doesn't like guys who don't just stand and trade with him, guys with a bit of speed. You keep deluding yourself that Froch is "leagues above them both"...i guarntee when they meet in a year or two, if at all...it won't be easy as you are making out for Carl.
boxing analyst you're a **** poster, i'v given solid cause as to why i think froch would loose to groves and have stated that theirs an probable chance of groves getting ko'ed yet you still mock me unintelligently your reasoning is less then a 4 year olds.
It's hard to see how Froch wins any fights he takes part in. He has really slow hands, slow feet, his punches are awkward and he's easy to hit. He's very hard to beat though and his relentless style and heavy punches should stop Groves.
No, JFt96 was NOT PIGG Wilson I wish to lay to rest this cruel and unfounded canard with some urgency ... for PIGGs sake if not his. PIGG will go down in the annals of Boxing Forum history by achieving the most remarkable and audacious prank of all time, in a space of a mere 24 hours the PIGG registered, posted and was duly BANNED by three forums (Boxrec/CHB/ESB) Incredible I think you will agree? How was this remarkable feat achieved? In an idle moment at work the PIGG registers with venerable and somewhat creaky looking veteran Boxrec, near 50 posts in a single afternoon, all punctuated with the PIGG signature and PIGG Gif, he was banned. BUT what was this outrage the ban was only for one day (for the supposed crime of Many pointless posts) most chagrined the PIGG waited till his temporary ban was over, promptly logged on again when able, sent PMs to all the MODS and posted a fiery screed denouncing the forum and its moderation policy, within hours he was banned with the pithy comment; Goodbye to bad rubbish Inspired by this he created a PIGG Wilson profile on the once promising, but now ailing CHB. The same Modus Operandi as Boxrec, many posts, the PIGG signature and Gif and for good measure a PIGG Wilson Top Tunes thread that featured an eclectic mix of of PIGG favourite tunes. To make things more interesting a rather dim and somewhat pathetic character called NUFC engaged in some badinage with the PIGG but was soon cut down to size. Once again the PIGG was banned, hurrah the cry goes up, the so called Moderators of this organ take great delight in spotting alts, permitting one to go through the registration process then banning before one makes a post, to make a mockery of this misplaced arrogance the PIGG utilised a fake email and a proxy and in quick succession manged to create both the CARDEW and WATTIS alts and twice posted 'PIGG Wilson GONE But NOT Forgotten' threads (Cardew banned, Wattis in the Gulag) Late last night he invaded the bastions of dear old ESB, however rather then the abuse,rancour and spleen he encountered elsewhere the PIGG was received with some glee by the ESB faithful and urged on in his efforts (given the mass defection to CHB this year ESB is now short of both real and self styled characters so the PIGG was no doubt a shot in the arm to a very tired forum) Almost 70 posts in less than an hour, at one point I was the last post on virtually every thread on the Brit Forum until the plug was (thankfully) pulled. This feat will never be surpassed. Was it 'trolling' I don't know? Many years ago when the PIGG's 'work' was more sophisticated, MUCH better financed and reached a global audience he and his cohorts were labelled as 'anarcho pop pranksters' and (one I he never understood but enjoyed immensely) 'Art Terrorist' working in a less glamorous area of the arts, bored with too much time on his hands the PIGG amuses himself with kicking over the statues in his own unique fashion. The Boxing fraternity should not feel victimised however (though PIGG does favour this avenue due to the 'types' he encounters within) his net is spread far an wide and many fora covering many subjects (The Church of Scientology and the New Kadampa Tradition are old adversaries) all feel the wrath of the PIGG. My sympathies to JFT96 for any distress caused, and my contempt for the party who foolishly claimed he was PIGG. Till the next time, till the next guise, goodbye.
I'm a **** poster..Oh the irony, did you see Degale last night? He looked average as usual. **** off back to Kenya you aids ridden gimp.
PIGG Wilson started forum life as BoxRob posting on BoxRec. He seemingly had some vendetta against Billy Nelson, as BoxRob (PIGG) claimed that Ricky Burns was parting company with Nelson a few weeks short of the Mitchell fight. Nelson took the bait and responded. All went quiet and then BoxRob piped up again with a thread entitled 'The Search For Billy Nelson' claiming the Burn's camp was in turmoil etc... around about the time Nelson's gym was raided by police. Long story short, BoxRob aka PIGG Wilson aka FoxSlob aka BoxRobii aka numerous aliases, seemingly is a huge Mitchell fan and insinuated things like Burns is on peds. Was quite funny actually.