ANDRE WARD Should NOT Be in the TOP 5 P4P...

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  1. Jim

    Jim Member Full Member

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    Dudes, Bad Chad was drained as **** AND his ass was KO'd in training.

    :patsch

    Martinez's victory over Junior is greater than Ward's KO victory of a drained and recently KO'd Dawson.

    :deal

    However, Ward belongs in the Top 10 for his Super Six run.
     
  2. Pimp C

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  3. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So presumably you have Mayweather, Pacquiao, Martinez and who else above Ward? Not saying you're wrong just wondering who you place above him.
     
  4. Smokin' Joe

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  5. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not greater than his schooling of Froch, though.
     
  6. Doc

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    Top 10 for sure,

    Martinez or DOnaire deserve to be in TOP 5 before that weight draining hide at home ward. Ward os definitely TOP 10 though.
     
  7. crazy8s

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    Martinez has been fighting nobodies before he beat the overrated Chavez Jr. And Donaire hasn't looked good since he sparked Montiel. As soon as Canelo steps up his competition he's going to pass both of them.

    "What have you done for me lately."

    I'm also not going to bump Ward up in the p4p talk just for beating Dawson. It was a good win, but the weight was an issue.
     
  8. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    It's true. Ward is not in the top 5.

    Floyd
    JMM
    Donaire
    Pacquiao
    Martinez
    Bradley
    Ward


    :deal
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Go to the 1:30 mark. This was just days before the fight.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da61AYiza-A[/ame]
     
  10. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    How is Manny ranked over Ward??he just lost and some say he lost the fight before that,and before that he fought a shot to **** shane coming off of a loss and a draw...when was his last impressive performance???

    Ward is the lineal champ at 168,won the super 6 and just beat the lineal lhw champ...
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Preach!
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    FFS...some of you go overboard with this "He only fights at home" ****. I don't give a **** if they fight at home as long as they don't get constant home court decisions. Did Ward's home town win the fights for him? ****, should we remove Floyd from the rankings too? Dude lives and fights in Vegas! And what counts as home....fighting in your home country? Fact of the matter is, fighters fight largley where they can sell the fight. Should Ward travel to ****in Sheboygan to prove his mettle? Bunch of ******s who over analyze too much, thinks it makes them 'knowledgeable'...
     
  13. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    You don't paint the full picture and are showing your bias- if you bring up that many say he lost his Marquez fight, then you also have to bring up that most believe he won his Bradley fight- you're trying to make it a double negative when it's not. Both also were P4P level fighters. He knocked Mosley down who hasn't been knocked down in a long time. Floyd is still P4P number 1 and yet he's been having long stretches of inactivity, at least Pac is fighting and allowing other fighters ride their bikes all day and make him look bad. If he had been inactive since 2010 and just fought Bradley this year people would still hold him in high regard.

    WARD on the other hand, was P4P #7 or so, since the beginning of this year and fought only ONCE, you think he deserves to be bumped up after draining his opponent? People give Floyd and Pac bigger **** over bloating or draining 2 pounds
     
  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I have Ward top 5.

    May
    Marquez
    Martinez
    Ward
    Pac
     
  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How did he drain his opponent? Chad said 168, Chad got 168. Just days before the fight Scully says there is no issue with weight. If there was an issue you certainly can't blame Ward for it, and it's arguable if there was an issue at all. Personally I think Ward beats him at any weight.