ANDRE WARD Should NOT Be in the TOP 5 P4P...

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  1. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not true...Oscar was drained because PAC had to jump two weight divisions to meet Oscar at 147. Ward on the otherhand get credit because he stayed in his own division.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    No one made DLH, or Dawson, do anything they weren't willing to do. They deserve the blame, not the opponent.
     
  3. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah, because skully would trash dawsons chances just before the fight, telling everyone how bad it is making 168 and how badly sparring was going. :patsch

    because that's how it works? :lol: :patsch

    does dawson get out of shape like most fighters when not in camp, or does he remain in pretty good nick?
     
  4. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    oscar was the one behind the pac fight. so it's oscar's fault, not pacs.
     
  5. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Look at these resumes

    Dawson(dead at the weight, but still a world class fighter)
    Kessler(2x SMW champ)
    Froch(2x SMW Champ)
    Abraham(2 weight champ)
    Bika(solid gate keeper)
    Miranda(solid gate keeper)

    Pacquaio(I thought Bradley eeked it, but have no problem with anyone saying Pac won..8 weight champ. ATG. Future HoFer easily)
    Alexander(unified 140 lb champ.)
    Holt(WBO 140 chamo)
    Peterson(IBF 140 champ)
    Witter(WBC 140 champ. Bradley goes to his backyard and wins)
    Vasquez(IBF LW champ)

    Most people claim Bradley's a bum or B level fighter, when his resume is just as good if not better than Ward's.
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I like your list, but I'd have no problem switching Martinez, Bradley, and Ward around in whatever order.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Think back, Dawson spent a few years claiming he could make 168 if a top guy would fight him there, so ya, he brought it on himself. He looked like a freaking zombie, but that's his own fault.
     
  8. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Floyd
    Bradley
    Pac
    Donaire
    Ward
    Martinez
    Mares
    Wlad
    Dawson
    Moreno
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's great bro, I'll be sure to address it in a pa-oscar thread. :good
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How does it change the outcome either way? You're claiming Ward knew he was drained, so how does Scully saying he is or isn't drained change things? The truth is Dawson made a decision with his team, if it bit him in the ass that is no ones fault but their own. Of course every trainer tries to spin a loss, wouldn't you agree?
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Dawson was the one who called Ward out at 168. Who's fault is that?
     
  12. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Ward and Donaire are the two best fighters in the sport right now. Floyd didn't impress against Cotto and Pac didn't impress against Bradley and Marquez. Ortiz was nothing.
     
  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You will catch flak for this but it truly not farfetched to see it this way.
     
  15. crazy8s

    crazy8s Active Member Full Member

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    Media hype is better than a fighter actually going into the ring and fighting?

    Try again. :roll: