The mystery of what makes a powerful punch, how much do you know?

Wrists have nothing to do with it. Some of the hardets punchers I've been hit by didn't have big wrists.

If anything, it's the big boned weight lifters that tend to push with their punches instead of snap them.

I know a guy that was a powerlifter with a very big bone structure for his size, and he hit like a mosquito bite. Everybody made fun of him.

 

you just hit the right spot and the right opponent. see amir khan.

So much experts in ESB when in reality, everything you are spouting are bollocks.

 

Holy ****. What a bunch of ****ing broscience in this thread.



You think guys like malignaggi and bradley, guys that have been fighting since they were kids, countless hours in the gym trying techniques, golden gloves champ to pros....simply arent using proper technique or getting out what they really could if they "planted their feet more" or whatever other bullshyt's been said in here.


These guys literally fight all day and night for their entire lives. You dont think theyve ever tried to hit a heavybag as hard as possible with every technique/foot placement/followthrough?

The nerve of you keyboard jockeys is astonishing

 

I don't got thick wrists, but I can knock people out, so I know from first hand experience, your thesis is bull****.

It's all about snap and explosion.

I'm sorry if you can't punch, but just because you can't punch, doesn't mean others unlike you can't punch.

Maybe you can just learn to wrap your legs around another man to win fights, like a sissy.

 

Some things are just Genetic. I've heard speed, power, leverage and a plethora of other factors that determine punching power. Ultimately I think it boils down to genetics.

 

When mechanics get ingrained they're very hard to change. Hence why so many ****ing idiots such as yourself believe that punchers are 'born', whatever the **** that actually means.
Unless a fighter gets expert biomechanical analysis from an expert in human movement (not some two bit coach who doesn't know anything but's trained a few champions so becomes credible all of a sudden about something he doesn't have a clue about :roll the first time they step into the gym as a kid then of course they can have some less than optimal motor movements ingrained.
There are top athletes in every sport who make mistakes who could be better if they addressed technical issues.
Some dense ****ing people on this site.

 

Genetics for what? Genetics influence things, so what things are they? The very things you are talking about. Gene expression can be altered through training and lifestyle factors as well.

 

The Broscience is strong in this one.


I just dont see how you can convince yourself that a trained fighter for 20+ years...has not tried everything in the book on a heavybag to hit harder. It doesnt take a fukken rocket scientist to throw a hard right hand with all your weight behind it. The idea that theres some secret biomechanical movement or coordination that isnt being used, that is somehow going to exponentially increase a boxers power.



You sir, are a hyuge phaggot.

 

:yep

 

lol.

 

In my opinion, speed is not that usefull if you don't retain most of the momentum once you hit the target. Take the exemple of a car and a moto both going at 50 MPH and hitting a wall. The car weights more, so its impact will be greater, but it is also is much more stable (4 weels) so the car will keep a lot of momentum after the impact and go through the wall.

George Foreman was, indeed, a car. In my opinion, he was the strongest HW we've seen. So no matter how slow he punched, he retained most of that speed and power once he hit his target. Stronger arms, stonger back muscles and stong legs allowing him to get maximum leverage.

You can take a hammer and hit a brick wall faster than an hydraulic piston, but the piston will have a greater impact because of that balance issue.

 

Basic physics really. A natural puncher is just someone who has acquired the correct coordination from outside of boxing. Also when foreman committed he wasn't slow. Time lapse footage of some of his ko's easily dispell this myth.

 

Nice way of putting it. It explains why relatively slow, even crude punchers like Foreman, Liston, Vitali etc can still punch with great power, whilst much faster punchers like Byrd and Chambers do not. And although I don't think these types of heavy handed guys punch as hard, single shot wise, as a more explosive puncher like Tyson or Wlad, they're much more likely to hurt you repeatedly throughout the fight with clubbing or glancing blows. Someone like Wlad seems to lose a lot of power if he can't get full extension on his shots.

 

It's why most people who got hit flush by a Butterbean overhand right got ktfo.
No Holyfield 19 inch thick neck is gonna save when a prime 300-330 pounds man with hands as fast as Liston hits you on the jaw.

 

I doubt he would take an overhand very well...

I just don't see Butterbean connecting.