Donaire vs Ward vs Martinez P4P

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  1. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought you put the N/A there because this is the first time Donaire has become a lineal champion and obviously he hasn't made any defenses yet.
     
    purephase, Oct 20, 2012
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  2. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    I had a thread the other day discussing the "linearity" of champions and frankly it was in agreement that its really not as big a deal as long as they've beaten the top dog in a division

    but yeah ill probly leave it at N/A since my train of thought is closer to what you have
     
    megavolt, Oct 20, 2012
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I didn't mean to sound like a ***** if I did! Apologies...

    Well, honestly, the Paul Williams KO2 occurred after Sergio had become king of MW from Pavlik... But yeah, Macklin and Chavez Jr. both were at the time the #3 or #4 MW, very solid wins. Unlike many, I didn't think Sergio was in too much trouble against Macklin and think I had him up one going into the 11th and final...

    As for Donaire, Mthalane or Narvaez, but I'd go Mthalane based on his being at the weight and his future stay there. The Mthalane fight is a real good one, with Mthalane def winning a couple of the first 5 rounds before the cut in 6 and Donaire upping the volume.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 20, 2012
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  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't think it matters too much, honestly. A lot of hair-splitting with those names, for now.
     
    Boxed Ears, Oct 20, 2012
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well then put an N/A next to Ward, since he didn't become lineal champion until he beat Froch.

    Gotta be consistent...
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 20, 2012
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  6. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    its cool

    before I finalized the thread I had Narvaez in that spot but it didn't seem as consistent as the other two since Chavez and Froch were in the same division, whereas Narvaez was a superflyweight so I omitted it instead

    For the record I have Donaire a clear top and used to have Martinez over Ward but many have posed strong arguments for Ward so I'm undecided between the two
     
    megavolt, Oct 20, 2012
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  7. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    zing

    ok TKO6 Mthalane it is :lol:
     
    megavolt, Oct 20, 2012
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  8. HIGHCOLLIDE

    HIGHCOLLIDE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Norigo dairyair is a coward..not even top 10
     
    HIGHCOLLIDE, Oct 20, 2012
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  9. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    I did read this, so I added longest string of defenses
     
    megavolt, Oct 20, 2012
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  10. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Ward
    Donaire
    Martinez

    Ranking them on sheer accomplishments to date is, as Boxed Ears points out, basically just splitting hairs. That's how I rank them in terms of actual ability though, simply how good they each are, and I feel very confident about the placings.
     
    the cobra, Oct 20, 2012
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  11. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    many have good ability, but how many are top fighters are willing to delve to new weights to test themselves?
     
    megavolt, Oct 21, 2012
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  12. haworths623

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    Nonito Donaire has one of the most underrated resumes in all of boxing. Just because people don't know **** about little guys.
     
    haworths623, Oct 21, 2012
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    His resume is insane. People say Ward practically already has HOF credentials, but I don't see his career long resume as being particularly better than Donaires' at all.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 21, 2012
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  14. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    There aren't 5 better fighters currently than Bradley.
     
    SouthpawJab, Oct 21, 2012
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  15. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    :lol: Are you serious?
     
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