If Alan Rudkin had beaten Fighting Harada...

Thanks Vic, glad you saw it. I think you know more about Jofre than all of us.

 

Nice one flea, think I've got some reports for that fight, I'll dig them out. Walter didn't pay Medel enough respect there.

 

One does not simply trap Medel on the ropes!

 

That was actually a response to Frank

But yeah, McGowen wasn't the greatest ring general as, for all his skills to liked to get too involved despite lack of big dig and terrible skin.

Medel sets bear traps. Actual bear traps. Big enough to snare bantams and to crush flys :yep

McGowan was ace though.

 

If u cared about uploading d unavailable Gaby Canizales and Raul Perez fights , then u would not have remained so ignorant .

And remember , Jorge Lujan got stopped 0 times , Castillo got stopped 5 times and i discount d times when he was shot .
Also , Raul Perez got stopped 0 times @ 118 and had a considerably longer reign against even better opponents , or at least not any worse .
Canizales got stopped 1 time , still better than Castillo .
Chandler got stopped 1 time .

And this is comparing Castillo , clearly d gr8est and best of what u called d best era of 118 .

If I chose some1 else from that era , then i would find even more gr8er fighters from d better eras .

Castillo , Herera , Olivares were a significant advance from their predecessors , except maybe Jofre , but were not superior 2 Perez , Canizales , Contreras .

Castillo a top 15 @ 118 , Lujan a top 2 .
It may b that all of Lujan's losses during or near his prime except from Chandler when he was probably drained were robberies .

Lujan might not have been a tremendous puncher but was a gr8 fighter and yet a gr8er 118 .

U get swayed by d hype typically after all that u learned , having Orlando and Ricardo above Gaby (how and y did he get this name?) 4 a starker example 4 your idiocy .


edit : My mistake , Castillo was stopped 5 times b4 he got shot , not 2

 

get this fool out of here.

 

Agreed, surely he should get banned for abysmal spastication?!?

 

is that a medical term

 

It is now

 

Rudkin - Rose

Very good bout. Especially if you're a fan of technical fights.

Rose looked massive next to tiny Rudkin - "This is a man fighting a little boy".
Rose controlled Rudkin with the jab in the early rounds and landed some fast left hooks in the later rounds.

For the first 4 rounds Rudkin looked like he was out of his depth versus Rose - smaller, slower, haven't landed a single meaningful punch and cut.

But it seemed like that cut woke up Rudkin.

He adjusted very good - nice sneaky right hands and some good body shots.
I think Rudkin even got bigger as the fight progressed.

The last round definitely deserves a mention - Rudkin showed real guts and determination.

The judge who scored the fight 60-75 in favour of Rose obviously was a big big fan of Rose.

It was a very close fight, not a robbery by any means.

Personally I think 8-7 in favour of Rudkin would have been a fair decision.

 

Im a bit late,been all over the place lately,but thanks for the film,Flea Man.First time Ive seen it since it happened.Pure class.Liked the bit about crushing flys.Also agree that Walter a top boxer.Also had a steely attitude,like his contemporaries Alan Rudkin,Howard Winstone,Dave Charnley etc.Didnt remember Walter down in the first,memory playing tricks.Cheers.

 

No problemo TED and Lester I had it 8-7 to Rudkin as well.

 

I agree with you Lester with that 8-7 and you could even say 8-7 either way, it was that close. Me dad never made a fuss about the decision at the time and over the years. He felt he had done enough to take it but accepted it was a close one. He did though have strong feelings about Ray Mitchell's scorecard, a joke. I read somewhere that his breakdown was actually 14 to Rose with one even, the 13th. That means he had a 5-3 round in there as well. For me referee Vic Patrick's is a strange one, the maths don't add up. 70-63 must be 5 to me dad and 10 to Rose with two 5-3's. I've always wondered wether it was really 70-68 Rose and was read out wrong. There were a couple of papèrs that scored it a draw.

 

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Humberto Chiquita Gonzalez, Alan Rudkin and some of the later bantam brigade, Rafael Herrera, Alfonso Zamora and Carlos Zarate. 2010.

 

Where was this taken Al?