When will the myth that Khan was dominating or easily winning vs Garica end?

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  1. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    I think you mean the first 2 rounds and the 3 was competitive.

    Yeah keep believing those punch stats. :lol:
    Garcia is not Kotelnik so no. And its sad that you have to predict a tko by cuts as if Khan can just cut him at will. :lol:
     
  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    with none khan fans it as, with khan nut huggers it wont unfortunately
     
  3. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :deal

    That's it. If he throws those combos he's always going to end up eating something massive at some point. His best hope would be throwing no more than 1-2 punches at a time - but in the first fight even when throwing a 1-2 Khan was leaning in to land the right and leaving himself off balance and open for the counter.

    If Khan is going to get to where he wants to be he needs to become a 1-2 fighter and stop relying on his speed and trying to overwhelm his opponents with flurries because a good counter puncher with eat him up. If he's going to do this he needs to have a massive overhaul of his balance and footwork. Unfortunately for him he doesn't seem like he has the best power, and his opponents will have confidence in standing their ground and landing something big on him.

    I think Steward would have been the ideal trainer for him, but sadly he's unwell.
     
  4. If khan was better schooled and more intelligent he could have won that fight, as soon as garcia started countering he needed to think ok, I need to stay out of the way of that left hand with lateral movement, and tighten up.

    Garcia couldn't do much about the footspeed but khan kept offering his chin
     
  5. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Yesss.
     
  6. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    The guy has no infighting ability nor does he have any defense. His new trainer Virgil Hunter said it's to late for him to learn to slip punches. He has this nasty habit of running in with out his legs set throwing punches. It's b/c of this he sometimes seems to not have much power in his shots.

    Khan's skill level is not what you think.
     
  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agree! :deal

    He needs to keep that right hand glued to the side of his face for protection from the left-hook, and use double jabs to unsettle him. I'd recommend throwing the right only when Garcia is being backed up by the jabs and is not in a position to plant both his feet and swing away like he normally likes to do. It may be a good idea for him to stay away from a mid-range fight. He needs to bamboozle him by constantly being either too far away, or too close up smothering and making it dirty.
     
  8. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    So Khan needs to turn into Mayweather to beat Garcia?
     
  9. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    And one more massive thing . . . .

    FEINTS!!!

    Garcia was able to time him so easily as it was so obvious when Khan was going to throw . . . because it was every time his hands moved. He needs to feint to draw those counters then come back with his own shots.
     
  10. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    He got timed in 4 ****ing rounds because of his predictable IN 1-2-3-4 OUT rythm, lunge in witha combo, no feints, no disguse, get out as quick as you can, repeat x100

    I have heard the most god awful DKSAB comments about this fight

    Khan was dominating
    It was a lucky punch

    And now we have a winner, in a couple more rounds, Garcia would have been stopped

    Christ :patsch
     
  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course! Probably the most useful thing -- and it's a basic one -- Khan could possibly do. Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen him use a feint to good effect :patsch.
     
  12. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :rofl

    Tell me about it.
     
  13. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan was winning but you can tell it was only a matter of time. I could tell that Garcia is looking for counters and he was having success from round 1.
     
  14. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Khan's fighting basically consists of . . . .

    1) Move around and do some posturing
    2) Lunge in throwing a 1-2
    3) Lunge out
    4) Move around again and do some more posturing
    5) Lunge in and throw a 1-2-3-4
    6) Lunge out and go back to step 1

    And if his opponent attacks he just covers up and stands there

    There is no real thought behind any of his attacks which is why I believe that any good counter puncher will always cause him massive problems. There's no looking for openings, no creating his own openings with feints, no countering . . .

    It's just a very basic in out amateur style. It's a shame as I always did want to see Khan succeed, and he really has tried to do it but I just don't think he has the brain to get there. You can't beat those top guys solely with speed. Speed and power, perhaps, but not just flurrying with shoe shine punches.

    I would happily be proven wrong though.
     
  15. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Exactly

    Khan fights like he's in fight night champion