When will the myth that Khan was dominating or easily winning vs Garica end?

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  1. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I have already said on a couple of occasions now, Khan won the first. It however was not as lop-sided as HBO or you are trying to make it. What I don't understand is how you think it wasn't part of Garcia's plan. He knew in order to catch Amir he was gonna have to draw him in, he wasn't planning on winning a decision. It was part of his game plan that he divulged some of during the post fight interview. Danny knew he was gonna have to give away a few rounds, although he probably didn't plan on only two, too get Khan in his kitchen. I realize being a Khan fan, you're not used to seeing your fighter use a game plan, but that's how a lot of fighters (most fighters actually) get the job done. He conceded rounds to get his timing and gauge Amir's speed and power, then when he was in place he unloaded. It's as simple as that.
     
  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's always most important to keep a cool head....a killer instinct is great but sometimes can be an Achilles heel. Especially when the killer instinct kicks in before actually hurting your opponent or seeing blood.

    Khan was OVERLY aggressive from the sound of the first bell which isn't really his "MO"....Danny and his father's comments definitely got under Khan's skin and he was looking HARD for the KO...after so much success int he 1st Khan stepped on the gas and lost control.

    He should have stayed on the outside...controlled the slower and shorter Danny with a consistent jab, landing the right hand right behind it....Instead, Khan went toe to toe with Danny..gave up real estate and fought on the inside which isn't in Khan's favor.
     
  3. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Khan was exactly the same against Peterson where he was aggressive from the off and scored two (iffy) early knockdowns.

    He was the same against Maidana where he scored an early knockdown.

    He was the same against Salita where he won by KO within the first minute or so.

    He always starts fast and aggressively.
     
  4. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Garcia says he'll stop Khan in 3 rounds. He puts him down and has him all over the place at the end of the third before finishing it in the fourth.

    I'd say it almost went exactly the way he expected it to.
     
  5. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Yes he does, but what are the chances you are gonna get his supporters here to admit they are wrong in any way.
     


  6. 2:47 Not sure about the right hook, I don't see it land cleanly.
    2:28 yes that lands
    2:25, Goes round the back of his head IMO not clean.
    2:12 Left hook and it was at 2:13
    1:58, yes counted that one.
    1:42, good catch may have missed that one.
    1:35, Damn dude that his Khan on his belt line on his back, that does not count.
    0:46, yes that one landed
    0:06 yes that one lands as well.


    Yes that the 6 that compubox counted.
     
  7. JDK

    JDK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dude, khan was dominating.
    It was a lucky punch.
     


  8. Now was that an easy decision to come to, or was it hmm did Khan just do enough to win the round.
     
  9. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Yeah, the same lucky punch he landed on Morales, plus numerous other opponents.

    Cool story.
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Khan was doing better early on but in no way dominating. Garcia was still throwing back all the time and looking to counter. You can clearly see Garcia planning to time Khan with that punch early on, he was clearly trained for it considering Khan's predictable attacks as he occasionally jumps in with one-twos and out.

    It's easy to spot ******s when you see them suggest the punch was lucky, it was FAR from it and clearly, just watch previous rounds properly and you will see Garcia numerously trying to catch him with that shot as he's jumping in.

    Garcia, based on his aggressive style, power and deciation will not be fought again by Khan. He will be completely ignored as if he doesn't exist as they did with Prescott as Khan moves on to snatch the weakest title holders he could find. That should be enough proof right there that all this "Garcia got lucky!" talk is pure bull****, those same excuses came from the very same ******s after the Prescott fight. If Garcia and Prescott were lucky why didn't Khan rematch Prescott or show ANY seriousness in rematching Garcia?, if anything Khan is chasing the retired Hatton.
     
  11. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    What the **** does it matter? It was 2 rounds of a 12 round fight.

    Khan is lightening quick, so unless you've fought someone that fast before then you're not going to win the first couple of rounds - you're going to be getting used to his speed and working out your timing. It's what happens when you have your timing down that's important, and we all know what happened there.
     
  12. Read the title of the thread bro.

    The guys tries to make out the first two rounds were closer that they actually were.

    Khan won them easily, end of story.:deal
     
  13. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No need to change or switch words for what it was....we could get Rosetta Stone and say it in French and we'd all see the same thing.

    Garcia stuck to his game plan which was to close distance and make the fight on the inside...he succeeded. But Khan helped by how he chose to fight. The first round was a little wild and too fast for Amir but he at leas was fighting Danny on the outside....Afterwards Khan didn't respect Danny at all and that was a mistake he paid dearly for.
     

  14. Prescott was losing all the time
    Khan wanted the rematch, Garcia didn't he wanted to rematch a old shot former featherweight.
     
  15. Bogotazo

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    It's interesting you guys put it that way because I actually think Khan does better against quick opponents who he fears can catch him consistently. If you look at the Paulie fight (which might end up being his best performance), he timed him well and stayed disciplined, and often used his favorite trick of feinting with the jab, triggering a counter,and coming back with a right hand. He looked good against Judah too. But against fighters like McCloskey and Garcia who don't give him much to work with, he gets over-confident and lunges in trying to go all out with his combinations. I think the Maidana fight, with the 10th round display of heart and 1st round knockdown, Khan started losing focus. Since then, you compare to the way he kept distance against Kotelnik, and it's night and day.

    Garcia was landing in the early rounds, it wasn't a wash, but Khan was justifiably ahead on points. The counters Garcia was timing were still too far out of range to get full leverage, until Amir obliged with that ridiculous uppercut.