How can we be sure guys like Cadel Evans, Choc, Green and other guys aren't juicing?

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  1. dawsosj

    dawsosj Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The simple answer to that question is no, we can't be sure, everything is pure speculation, but tc runs like a bull at a gate stating that he knows for a fact green is juicing then he brings up all his go to cards like soft part of the skull etc it's just ****ing boring and repetitive. It is entirely plausible that he used some kind of help to get him up to the limit, but he has not failed any tests, and you would think they would have testing after the wlod fights , and now before and after the cameron fight after the tarver debacle. The situation with ped's is extremely difficult to gauge as some things that were legal a year ago, are illegal now and so on.
     
  2. TheDuke

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    This. After what you have posted here there should be nothing holding you back from supplying a pretty big newspaper with a pretty big story.
     
  3. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    now i remember why i dont bother making threads in here :rofl
     
  4. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem with that is the same problem with Armstrong, it will eventually come out but it has to be a collective exposure, one person just cant expose this guy on his own. Greens history tells us one thing, he is NOT an honest person and he has NOT been drug tested on every world title fight which alone should raise alot of eyebrows, i thought ALL WT fights had compulsury testing but i guess when its Danny Green and the IBO he is immune to such a thing, its why they let him get away with the sports bottle incident, claiming it was Gateraid when there is no farkn Gateraid that looks thick and syrp looking like he was drinking. He also wanted water straight after drinking it, i know when i buy gateraid i always get a bottle of water to wash it down :nono :lol:

    I have no intrest in going to the media about what i know, all one need to do is put the peices together and one will soon realise he is on something, u cant put on muscle for the duration of time he has put it on, not to mention when you come off the sht you loose a tone of weight which is pretty much what he has done, the roids didnt work for him, he looked to bloated and bulked up so he stopped it and now looks like he was when he 1st hit CW. Danny Green couldnt lye in bed straight if he tried so its not out of this world to conclude he juiced up.
     
  5. The Spider

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    So it's gone from "Green IS using drugs and you know who supplies them" - see above.

    To "It's not out of this world to conclude he juiced up" - see below:

    Not surprised at your about face when you have nothing but "pure speculation" :yep
     
  6. dawsosj

    dawsosj Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ahhh what a u turn by old mate, it's not that hard to figure out but it has to be collective, going by your logic there must be thousands of people out there who think he is on the gear, why don't you start some kind of action group and drum up some exposure? or are you the only one who can see the truth and everybody else is just deluded nut hugging karnts.

    Gonzo, at the moment we just have to trust the system and hope that it flushes out enough guys to scare others away from using it, cycling seems to be the worst for it but there have been some pretty shocking failures in other sports as of late, im surprised that chinese girl who killed everybody in the swimming in the olympics hasn't yet been done, but maybe she is perfectly clean.
     
  7. stiflers mum

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    Sorry used Green as a possibility. But fact is Tarver got caught next fight in U.S. Martin Vinnicombe a Aus cyclist was busted ages ago so Cadel could be. Mundine can hardly bruise a grape these days TKOing aging journeyman and lowly ranked contenders only so I doubt he is.
     
  8. Francis75

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    I always chuckle to myself when an Aussie like Cadel Evans wins something like the Tour De France and there is no mention of the possibility of drug taking by Australians but when someone from another country wins then they are juicing. Of course there has to be some possibility that his team and/or him were using PED's. I don't know if he was/is but you would have to be very naive to not even consider it possible.

    Ty can you please put up the evidence and before/after photos of Greeny juicing so I can give an unbiased evaluation of the evidence.
     
  9. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty ass hurt over the comment i made to you about Mundines PPV numbers i see, take 5 and just relax Mr Spider Boy, you speculated and thats pretty clear. Myself on the other hand have 1st hand information regarding his juicing and i really cant say much more than ive already stated. You choose to do what you wish with that information, im not asking you to belive me, what i did put out there is that its not out of this world for people like you to conclude he is juicing given his history and the information that has thus far been provided but like pulling a horse to water, i cant make it drink and as thick as you are, you chose to do what u will with the info provided and make up your own conclusion.

    I watched the armstrong doco the other night and whilst nothing was proven against him the evidence was overwhelming, alot of people know Green is on the juice just like alot of people know Briggs took the dive but its upto said people to speak up or cover it up.

    its like a bank robber, if he has been busted robbing a bank and then does his time, comes out and a bank is robbed on the same day the same time as he was seen in said bank, its easy to asume he robbed the bank. Green has a history of cheating and telling lies , put the puzzle together and work it out for yourself, im not drawing you any pictures :lol:
     
  10. TCboxa

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    I will have to dig them up again, someone touched on the dramatic weight gain already, i posted the info a while ago on ESB when it looked pretty obvise he was taking something, it may have been after the BJ Flores fight when he was busted sipping on what he claimed was gateraid, to which no one todate has an explination for, gateraid doesnt look thick and like a syrip as does the sht he was consuming. It also picked him up during the fight, he was fading then they gave him to drink and he was back in action. Even BJ commented on it. If you search ESB forums u should find the post. I really dont want to comment on it much further as im likely to get a few phone calls, will prob get one already for saying what ive said.
     
  11. Francis75

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    Ty maybe Greeny was drinking Golden Syrup from an old Gatorade bottle inbetween rds ? :lol:

    It certainly wouldn't surprise me if Greeny was cheating because he has a history of devious activity in boxing with the Briggs fiasco, threatening to sue boxing nsw, cheating catchweights etc etc. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    Make sure you get that evidence up sometime tonight so it can be investigated by the forum.
     
  12. dawsosj

    dawsosj Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah tc put up this conclusive evidence so we can hang him up and burn him once and for all, i love your analogies by the way, you continually hit the nail on the head.
     
  13. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    Mate as a staunch Greeny supporter how can you defend him drinking golden syrup from an old gatorade bottle inbetween rds ?
     
  14. team prettyboy

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    TY in front of this lot your RANK would be professor..
     
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