What has Sergio Martinez really done to impress all of you so much?

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    At that time there was not many good fighters at mw not name pavlik/williams but i guess you consider sturm as the 2nd best mw? lol.
     
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  2. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    don't forget to answer to my question ! :deal

    ranked as No. 3 boxer at jr mw division !
     
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  3. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is sexy
     
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  4. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would answer if I could understand you :lol:
     
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  5. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    ok ***git, then bye , bye !
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    concrete evidence? boxing is a subjective sport you can't prove anyone is ever the second best in any division at any point in history.

    it's all a bunch of opinions.
     
    lufcrazy, Oct 23, 2012
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  7. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True but you can go some way supporting a particular claim with some evidence to bring to the table to reaffirm ones point.

    You claimed Williams was the 2nd best MW at the time, all I asked was to provide me with some reasons why you thought this was, so I could understand your position better. You maybe right. I just find it hard to believe he was or could be ranked so high at the time.
     
    Bladegunner, Oct 23, 2012
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  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    One punch KO over Top 5 P4P'er Williams
    Came in as a replacement against Pavlik (many picking against him to get KTFO)
    Beat Chavez Jr thoroughly
    Dominated Bunema as a 4-1 underdog

    Good wins over Dzinzurik, Macklin and Barker.

    He's carving out a nice career.
     
    turbotime, Oct 23, 2012
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  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Williams was the 2nd best middleweight after he beat Martinez I believe.
     
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  10. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's if you scored that fight for williams which I didn't. Would be like me saying Bradley is now the 2nd best WW because he officially beat pac, which I know he didn't.

    But then is Marquez the 2nd best WW because I know he did beat pac and I had him winning? My head hurts LOL
     
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  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    It was a close enough fight that it wasn't exactly a Robbery....but I still felt Sergio should have won. RING felt Williams won, apparently.


    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2009
     
    turbotime, Oct 23, 2012
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  12. lufcrazy

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    well aside from Martinez and Pav there's only Sturm who could be argued above him and I think Williams would have pushed Sturm's **** all the way in, plus had Sturm beaten anyone as good as Winky? I doubt it.
     
    lufcrazy, Oct 23, 2012
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  13. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone that has the real answer! An avoid Light-Middle who finally went up for an chance.
     
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  14. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just ignore the facts. Everyone was avoiding Williams from welter to Middle!
     
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  15. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He did, beat Oscar. But I agree Sturm would have lost to Williams.
     
    Bladegunner, Oct 23, 2012
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