Give a letter grade for Floyd Mayweather's Welterweight-LMW Resume.

Do you understand the thread and what it's asking? This isn't about OTHER fighters, it's about Floyd's resume. It's not about comparing him to others.

 

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Do you understand what "average" means? If his WW/JMW run is only average or just slightly above then damn near every other current boxer on the planet's resume is complete and utter ****, isn't it?

I'd say his recent resume is very good judging by today's standards... Nearly as good as they come, in fact.

 

Career long welterweights can establish much longer resumes.

He has only been at WW or above since the end of 05-12, with an 18 and 16 month gap of inactivity. For his stay at the weight, particularly the small number of fights he has relative to career long ATG WW's, I think his resume at 147+ is fantastic. If he had fought an additional 5 times at the weight like people think he easily should have, he'd be among the ATG WW's despite not having reached the division until he was almost 30 years old. Nobody claims he's an ATG WW. But with what he's done in the time and number of fights- a solid A. If we're comparing him to ATG WW's, obviously not an A at all by any means.

 

The notion of giving a letter grade (which is, like Victor Ortiz, half ******ed) sort of implies it has to be relative to letter grades you'd give to other people.

Otherwise, I could say Zaveck has an A resume at WW, and who could say no? He'd beat the tar out of 99% of WW's on the planet. That, technically is an A.

It's just a stupid thread in terms of what it is asking.

Ask us to rank him amongst his peers at WW during his stay there (<that thread has potential), not some letter grade BS.

 

Pretty solid B

 

Like I said, we aren't comparing Floyd to other fighters, this is about HIS resume at 147 and above. And you said it yourself, "by today's standards.."

 

The whole letter grading people do is pretty pointless. I look at the guys he's fought, and their:
Status
recent records (before and after)
and how they've looked themselves.

Lets take the Ortiz fight for example. I don't have enough hands to count how many times floyd fans would use the "He's a top three WW!!!" ****. Well, technically, sure he might have been. But we all know Ortiz was seen as a top WW for the reason there was no one else. SOMEONE had to be three. Same w/ Baldomir and JMM. Good luck finding a floyd fan didn't say he was lineal when mentioning Baldomir, or JMM as some top P4P fighter. doubt anyone will ever consider Baldomir anything but a decent fighter who was lucky to face someone like Judah for the title, or call JMM a top ranked WW. It's these labels that they think supposedly "up" their position. If one has to embelish a fighters credentials, then they're obviously grasping for straws.

 

It's not the number of fights, it's the who. Take away Baldomir and JMM from his WW resume, add Paul WIlliams and Margarito (or Cotto), and it's stronger then what is currently is.

 

I won't disagree with what you say.

In JMM's defense, two years after losing to Mayweather by 13 points on almost every scorecard, he won anywhere from 5 to 8 rounds off of the other "best fighter of the era" and the other "#1 ranked WW." You say you look at what they did after the fight too, and that can't be discounted. Say he was unmotivated, out of shape, and never showed up to win all you want, but the same 142 pound Marquez went on to (in most people's eyes) defeat Pacquiao.

 

Why would Baldomir have been lucky to fight judah for his title? He went 7 years undefeated up to that point and was Judah's mandatory :huh

Also that marquez win at WW is now huge considering the majority of people saw Marquez beat pac at WW quite comfortably.

 

Definitely a B+

 

I wouldn't call it huge. I would call it very significant. It wasn't a 9-3 type decision either. It was the 12-0 variety plus a KD. That's a big deal.

JMM is a HOF'er who went on and proved that he was not only competent at the weight Mayweather beat him at, but that he excelled at it by beating another legend years later.