T.K.O. in 6

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 6, 2012.


  1. Malden

    Malden 006 Full Member

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    And every Vitali-win makes TKO6 even better on Lewis behalf :yep
     
  2. Meow

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    Please explain this Lewis fans, without using excuses:

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  3. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

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    And I will retort, without using excuses

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  4. Meow

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    that isn't a retort because the fight occurred before the decision to ***** out and retire:


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  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Than lets address your double standards. Vittles promised his fans he'd get his belt back after losing to Byrd (ie a rematch) and never did. He also postponed the Rahman fight FOUR times and than retired instead of fighting him. These things are ok but Lewis legitimately beating Vitty and than retiring after beating every man he ever faced isn't? Lol, keep reaching ass clown! :yep
     
  6. Meow

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    Vitali didn't rematch Byrd again because his brother faced and beat him for that belt and Vitali himself destroyed him and only lost on a severe shoulder injury. The fight would not sell at all because Wlad was seen as the weaker of the 2 and nobody realistically believes Byrd could win by decision/KO.

    Vitali never fought Rahman because of severe injuries. The fact is that if anyone actually believes Rahman had a chance against Vitali is seriously laughable. Almost as laughable as thinking that Byrd could win by KO/Decision. When Vitali came back from his hiatus Rahman wasn't even considered anywhere near top 10 in the division so it shows you how much Vitali was "ducking" Rahman :rofl

    So after reaching your bull**** excuses against Vitali I now still find it hilarious that you call it a "legitimate win". Of course any type of win that is declared a win by a boxing commission is by definition, "legitimate". However, it was not convincing at all and everyone quickly realized Lewis won by the factor called luck. Winning 2 rounds over the course of a bout and then winning by cuts is literally the most unconvincing type of win I've ever seen. That's along with the fact that the "winner" was hit with more punches, power punches, and almost KD'D 3 times! Thus, people want a rematch because Lewis won't win every bout by cuts. Lewis realized it wouldn't happened again and refused a career payday against an opponent he never convincingly beat.
     
  7. tezel8764

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    Round 2: Lennox attempts to time Vitali to land his Jab but can't find contact. Throws a Left Hook that is blocked by Klitschko.

    After Losing the second Round, Manny Steward urges Lennox to 'Take it to him, take him to the streets'. Instead of trying to time Vitali, take the fight to him by closing the range with his Jab and forcing Vitali to fight in close quarters and on the inside. This is where Vitali is uncomfortable, due to Lennoxs height, Vitalis Height advantage is cancelled out therefore cannot dominate from Long range.

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    Beginning of Round 3: Lewis takes the initiative and throws a hard 1-2 the Straight Right forcing a cut above Vitalis eye.

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    Lennox begins to make contact with his Hard Jab. Steward - “When you jab don’t just jab—push your jab all the way through where you can push him off balance”, because I saw that Vitali crosses his legs a lot when he punches, and he would be out of balance.

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    Round 4: Lewis starts with a combination straight at Vitali, notice the stark contrast to the first two rounds. Mauling Klitschko by smothering his punches on the inside.

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    Round 5: This is where the fight turns in Lewis favor. Lennox rips Vitali with two uppercuts. Steward - "When he got inside there was a little trick I showed him how to slowly get your right hand down, real slow and quietly, and then rip an uppercut!"

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    Rips a Left Hook. He takes Round 5.

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    The Huge Uppercut: Vitali takes it but holds on well for an extended period of time. Vitali was not experienced enough particularly with infighting and therefore payed for it.

    The Jab, Left Hook and Uppercut were the punches that done the most damage in the fight. Lennox forced a dogfight by using his Jab to close the intermediate gap. Left Hooks & devastating uppercuts on the inside.

    RIP Emanuel Steward, you were and still are a Legend of Boxing.
     
  8. HiFelix

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    Who the **** is this meow piece of ****.

    ****ing **** kangaroo looking mother fuker.

    Listen to you riding Vitali's nuts.

    I bet the last time you seen a vagina was when your mom popped your worthless body out.
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Winning 2 rounds over the course of a bout, is that what you said? When did championship bouts become 6 round affairs? The fact is durability is part of boxing whether you like it or not. And the FACT is Vittles wasn't durable enough to beat either Byrd or Lewis when they fough and he obviously wasn't durable enough to fight Rahman at all.

    By the way.....Fat, old Lewis looked pretty convincing in the 5th and 6th rounds when he was battering Vittles and making him hold on for dear life, didn't he?

    Funny how it's ok for Vits not to rematch when he quits, but it's not ok for Lewis not to retire when he wins. Double standards!! :lol:
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post and breakdown!
     
  11. Meow

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    How do you not realize that Vitali absolutely destroyed Byrd in the fight? If you win 1 out of 9 rounds, it means you got the ****ing **** beat out of you. No, Byrd did not cause a shoulder injury. Vitali is known to be injury prone and had the same exact problem in the Chisora fight where after he damaged it he couldn't throw accurate shots. Vitali simply got injured and then started missing more shots because he only had 1 effective arm to work with. The fact is that before the injury Vitali was hitting him often and without that injury Byrd would have been KTFO'd by the end of the fight.

    The fans didn't realize the severity of the injury and didn't know that Vitali was battling with 1 effective arm. A rematch would not have been huge because

    1. It wasn't for the belt
    2. The injury was why Vitali lost
    3. Vitali won 8/9 rounds
    4. The weaker brother won by a decision

    You don't rematch a fighter that got their ass kicked and won by an injury. A 1 armed Vitali battered Byrd, the fight won't sell to the people that don't want to see the same happen minus the injury.



    I don't understand the amount of stupidity in your next quote. How does the definition of "hypocritical" apply when stating that retiring because of a injury that prevents someone from fighting compared to retiring because of being afraid of another fighter?



    But then you reached a new level of stupidity in your post. How do injuries have to deal with durability? And talking about durability, it was Lewis himself who was collapsing on the stool with no energy at all. Anyone who forgets that Vitali was already dominating him before that also doesn't remember that Lewis was totally degraded by the end of the fight and was hanging onto dear life. It was Lewis who wasn't durable.
     
  12. Meow

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    This may represent the average intelligence of anyone that believes that Lewis would have won the fight that night.
     
  13. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali dominated Byrd? Laughable, he did not connect with many punches. Byrd caused the injury and legal TKO win for Chris Byrd.
     
  14. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me get this straight.

    You are questioning the intelligence of somebody that thinks Lewis WOULD have won a fight he ACTUALLY WON.
     
  15. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As you have pointed out, and I agree with you BTW, Vitaly retired rather than fight Rahman

    And didn't come back until Rahman was shot.

    That's the very definition of ducking.
    The course of the bout? 2 of 6 is more accurate, but doesn't sound as good does it?
    A boxing commission didn't rule on this fight. The doctor and referee did.

    So you're saying, Lewis got hit more than Vitali, and landed less shots.
    But still opened 3 large cuts, and damaged Vitaly with his fists to such a point he couldn't continue. Which I think is the point of boxing.

    I'm coming around to you.

    Not only do you make a great point about the ducking if Rahman, but you think Lewis hits harder, and has more punch resistance.

    And I'm not sure, but what's a near knockdown?
    Is that like nearly winning?

    You can say what you like sbout Vitaly landing more shots. But look what price he paid for it. Part of boxing is about limiting the damage the opponent does to you too.
    Vitaly didn't take of that. After 3 rounds Lewis didn't have to. Vitaly couldn't hurt him after that. It was like watching a taller heavier Mavrovic against Lewis.
    Of course, Zelko could go 12 though