Ray Leonard: P4P Rating over last 50 Years?

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  1. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Robinson, Jackson, Hearns, Tyson, Louis are the best. :deal

    If Wilde is there, so too should Langford and Fitzsimmons.
     
    Hands of Iron, Oct 25, 2012
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    Interesting cat.
     
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    me too. I think Hearns and Jackson should be near the top.
     
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    I'd go #3 for Leonard. Since 1962, just off the top of my head, I guess I might go something like this on a first go:

    1. Duran
    2. Ali
    3. Leonard
    4. Whitaker
    5. Monzon
    6. Ortiz
    7. Hearns
    8. Hagler
    9. Napoles
    10 between either Rodriguez, Harada, Jones, Spinks, Jofre, and Arguello

    ...with fighters like Griffith, Chavez, Saldivar, Holyfield, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Olivares, Gomez, Sanchez, Hopkins, Holmes, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis, McCallum, Kalambay, Cervantes, Toney, Chang, Locche, etc. on the outside. Lot of great names with these lists - hard to keep guys out, but then you really get a perspective as to just how many brilliant fighters there have been over the years. Boxing's such a ridiculously deep and historically rich sport.
     
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    Black can Crack :deal
     
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    Me either.
     
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    He fought the very best and beat the very best.
     
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    One of the biggest victories in boxing history. Hearns (32-0, 30 KO) was favored.

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    Hands of Iron, Nov 6, 2012
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    Damn. You guys are too young to have such poor vision.
     
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    Mother****er if people can pop off that Roy Jones is better than Ray Robinson "on film", then guess what?

    SRL was the better talent. :smoke

    Would've Smoked Ali's resume if not for the detached retina. As it stands, Foreman is the only win on Ali's ledger that matches any of Ray's top four. All of them more skilled than Foreman 'on film' too papi.
     
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    Yes.
    Ali never ducked anyone or retired numerous times. **** sakes he gave away three years [age 25-28] of his best.

    US Army > Detached Retina
     
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