T.K.O. in 6

Nobody can cause a shoulder injury. Again, Vitali is extremely injury prone and has been injured multiple times. Vitali received the same injury against Chisora (although it was less severe) so he has always had problems with that arm. Winning nearly every round is domination. Byrd could never win more than 1 round against Vitali and would never KO/TKO him so it is laughable to even say that he deserved a rematch. Vitali made Byrd look like a clown with 1 arm, imagine with 2.

 

You are actually using the worst argument I've ever seen. The fact is that the fight would have never been stopped if the doctor did not stop it. The stoppage of the fight was no where near the regular KO/Decision and that's just plainly obvious because Lewis didn't ever hurt Vitali once and was getting dominated. And if the doctor did not stop it Vitali would have beat Lewis down and stopped him in the 7th/8th classic Vitali style.

 

No, you have the wrong definition of ducking. Ducking is legitimately trying to hide from an opponent without anything hindering the fight. Thus, if there is ever a money issue or more importantly a injury issue it is not ducking at all. Rahman wasn't shot in 2 years, Rahman was a shitty fighter. It's not ducking over injuries, and if a fighter can't stay in the top 10 after a simple 2 years then it means he never deserved a shot against one of the best. Lewis, by contrast, ducked Vitali.


Lewis did not stop Vitali. Again, you're use of definitions of words to make your arguments are completely poor. I understand why you continue to do so because you have a poor amount of evidence. You're just dealing with the fact that only a doctor stopped the fight and Lewis himself got the **** pounded out of him. Vitali's punches did a huge amount of damage because they almost put Lewis on his ass 3x.

Lewis had a pathetic performance in reality. Vitali never knocks his opponents out in the early rounds because he's not an explosive puncher but the accumulation always set in at the 2nd half of the fight. Yet, Lewis was almost floored 3x in the first 6. I can't imagine the second half where Vitali always gets stronger and goes for the kill. Lewis never hurt Vitali once throughout the entire fight too, so it shows that the real result without the doctor stopping it was plainly obvious.

 

First off, if you're injury prone you're OBVIOUSLY not durable. Second, a rematch would have been for that belt but Vittles had his brother handle what he couldn't. There is no excuse since he fought only a month after Byrd-Wlad. Third, the majority of rounds were close. Just because Vits one the majority doesn't change that. Fourth, Vittles did not win 8 of 9 rounds on the cards so you're either lying or are clueless. Fifth, it doesn't matter who was perceived as better. We all know Wlad is the far greater fighter. Most of all though its styles that make fights and Vits had a much harder time even before the injury occurred in the seventh round than his brother did.

 

You're the classic, delusional nuthugger who tries to rewrite history to suit his agenda. That's just sad kitty. :yep

 

He kind of is.
Lewis came back very strong. (thank Steward)
On outside Lewis had no chance, Steward "ordered" him to fight more on the inside, and chin checked Vitali.

But the "winner" writes history, and the history will be in big favour of Vitali and his Lewis loss. Besides Americans and Brits, Vitali isn't seeing hate anywhere and the loss is seen (by Klithuggers and a lot of casuals) as inconclusive or even as a win for Vitali. (This isn't meant to be pro Vitali but is something I'm seeing right now. Lewis is seen as the loser of the fight by a lot of people.(And Lewis wasn't the loser))

I think Lewis won the fight fair enough, for a big underdog Vitali did nice.

What Vitali did was showing that Lewis could be outfighted on the outside, and that Lewis can come back extremely strong with a new strategy (thanks Steward)

Edit:Kind of said the same thing twice...
Vitali showed iron chin and good outside work.
Lewis showed how quick he can adapt and turn the fight in his favour, proving once again he might have been the greatest of them all.

 

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Bottom line... yes Lewis won. Cuts are a part of boxing and that one above his eye was BAD. BUT, there should have been a rematch. Lewis won on a CUT. Vitali gave him all he could handle for 6 rounds and landed more shots. Lewis should have gave Vitali, and what pretty much every boxing fan wanted, a well deserved rematch.

"He couldn't beat me at my worst. How could he at my best." Ok Lennox, well train up for 3-4 months and blow him out of the water with ease then while giving all the boxing fans what they were craving! I mean easy payday right?! He was only able to walk through your punches because... your power wasn't there either that night right? He was title fight ready and you weren't. He was training for a 10 rounder with... I forgot his name, and you had a fight coming with Kirk Johnson. YOU only had 2 weeks notice and Vitali, well, he always had that abilty to look into the future. So knowing that Kirk would pull out, he was training for you the whole time right? :good

 

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But actually, it's more sohis nuthuggers in here that need to change their tampons.

 

There was more than one cut though; The one above the eye from a glancing blow that that tore the skin, One underneath in the eye and a cut inside his mouth from the huge uppercut in the sixth. Vitali was very weak on the inside and therefore payed for it.

 

Why is this thread even a sticky?.... Internationalbutt is nothing but a troll lewis nuthugger... There have been a lot of controversial stoppages/decisions in the last 10 years and this thread is a sticky...Mods should be impartial instead we get this **** thread:tong:hi:

 

Ok, so which one is more talked about than this? What other controversial fight deserves a thread more in this section?

 

Vits deserves his accolades for his effort and the heart he showed, I don't think any reasonable fan would deny that. But hate brought isn't necessarily any nationality. I would venture to say any negatives brought against Vits isn't because he isn't liked. I personalty think he's been as good a heavyweight ambassador as almost any other. His hate is brought on by ridiculous nuthugging and the twisting of truth. I favor Lewis much higher historically and h2h, but I was always more a Klit fan than a Lennox one till the lies, unreasonable ASSumptions and overeating. I know it isn't all, but I firmly believe most do this because of skintone and are simply incapable of being objective. Did Vits deserve a rematch? Absolutely. Should it be held against Lewis that he retired? Absolutely not.

 

Vitali has two good rounds against Lewis. After Vitali realized he could not knock Lewis out with one punch, he quit. His trainer did not give the right advices.

Emanuel Steward gave Lennox Lewis the right advices and in round 3 Vitali was badly cut. After round 3 Vitali try to survive and Lewis becomes stronger and stronger.

The ref. gave Vitali 3 more rounds after he was badly cut but he could not use them.

Lennox Lewis won TKO 6!

 

The lies and propaganda can never change the truth. Championship fights are 12 rounds, not 6. Vits gave a great effort but ended up in the deep end of the pool and being stopped. In the last two rounds he was clearly being outclassed and this was against an old, fat Lewis. Would EVERYONE have liked to see a rematch? No doubt. Was it necessary after already winning? Not at all. Now had Lewis ever come back this should and would rightfully be called a duck. But since he gad already beaten him and stayed retired Lewis should be applauded for his decision and sticking to it.