What's worse, to move down or to move up in weight violently?

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  1. locard

    locard Boxing Addict banned

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    What's worse for a boxer's body and performance in the ring?

    I'm thinking on boxers who move up or down in weight violently because they want a payday against a more popular fighter, and said fighter is located one or two classes above or below their natural weight.

    These fighters often sacrifice their bodies because they're too big or to small to leave their natural weight, yet they still do it to get the desired match and then get their butts kicked because they're not acclimated to that weight at all.


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  2. Absolutely!

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    Losing too much weight can dramatically affect your power, stamina and punch resistance. It can also drastically increase your chances of serious brain injuries due to the lack of fluid around your brain.

    Gaining too much can make you sluggish and if the weight isn't put on in the right way can affect your stamina and punching power as well. However, I don't think it's likely to be as damaging for your brain. The main problem as I see it is your opponent is going to be naturally a lot bigger than you are on fight night, and therefore likely to punch you harder, but I'd trade that for some of the horror stories you hear at the lower weights.
     
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    Moving down is worse for the reasons Absolutely listed. The obvious recent examples are Roy Jones, Tarver, and Byrd moving down from Heavyweight and being shells of their former selves after having done so. And of course, Dawson moving down from Light Heavyweight lost punch resistance as you mentioned.
     
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    Pacman is undefeated king in moving weight.

    Pacman KOs Włodarczyk in 8-10 rounds
     
  5. SJS19

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    Down.

    Site Roy Jones and Chris Byrd as clear examples, followed by Oscar De La Hoya.
     
  6. MVC

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    Yeah he is, in moving the weights of other's and roiding up.

    :rofl:rofl
     
  7. oibighead

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    Pacman is ATG fighter with ATG in out movement

    Pac has ATG footwork

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOtW23Er8Fs[/ame]

    Gayweather is VOID :deal
     
  8. locard

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    So both can be equally bad for a fighter's performance on fight night, but moving down in weight can also cause lasting damage to your brain huh :think



    Roy Jones is the greatest example of how wrong is to **** up with your weight. Going from Demi-God to Joke status in the span of two matches, sheesh :-(


    More like catchweight king :hat
     
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    ***** :hi:
     
  10. Porgeous Porge

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    almost voted equal, both are bad but losing weight is probably worse since you have to reach a weight, going up you dont necessarily have to go all the way up

    i mean i remember when Wink went up wrong vs Hop or when Hatton went up wrong vs Collazo
     
  11. Absolutely!

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    When you're a boxer anything can potentially cause lasting damage to your brain. If you're going down in weight, though, you're likely to be dehydrated and this makes your brain a lot more vulnerable to immediate, life threatening injuries, swelling, internal bleeding etc.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

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    Moving up will make the natural opponents' skills seem better (power, speed, stamina, etc.).

    Moving down will make ones' skills seem worse (power, speed, stamina, etc.).
     
  13. assasin

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    i'd rather go in the ring with all my strength and be up against a stronger opponent, than go in the ring and have no strength at all with being weight drained. fighters have been successful for years moving up, but not many have been successful moving down.
     
  14. assasin

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    hatton was never a welter, but at least he got the win against an underrated collazo. can you imagine what hatton would look like draining himself down to lightweight? he'd be far too weak, and he'd be blown away pretty easily i'd imagine.
     
  15. locard

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    Remember the thread is about moving up or down improperly and suddenly, so you wont have all your strenght if you move up, you'd be something like Marquez was against Floyd, bloated and much less strong, fast and sharp than you usually are