Jersey Joe Walcott vs Foreman prime for prime

If Jimmy Young can do it, I tend to believe Walcott can do it too.

 

First of all this would be no late round ko for George. If anyone gets koed late its Foreman not Walcott. Foreman had very poor stamina back in his prime where he wound up with all his might with every blow. Walcott though did not have the best wiskers and as mentioned he took risks or as I would say.....he made defensive mistakes. So I would bet on an early stoppage by George. Walcott has the tools to beat prime Foreman but I envision that he gets clipped, hurt and George finishes him off. Foreman KO 4.

 

And if Marciano could KO Walcott within 2 minutes of the 1st round then Foreman could do it within 30 seconds.

 

walcott is the one of the most brilliant fightrs. he invented techniques. but i simply just see foreman walking right over him.

 

Walcott had the tools, skills, speed and ringsmarts to have success against Foreman.

I dont think he wins though. I believe Foreman would eventually club him to the ground. George Foreman could move a man with glancing blows. Walcott at only 195lbs or so is going to be lifted off the canvas when George does connect. The end would be ugly.

 

That 39 years old version of Walcott? Yeah, you're probably right.

 

Just like you used the Foreman who had visions of dying and seeing Jesus Christ after the fight while yelling "Hallelujah Jesus Christ has risen in me!". We're talking Prime v Prime.

In any case Jimmy Young was bigger than Walcott, more durable and I'd say better defence, Foreman's stylistic kryptonite, something Peralta showed earlier in Foreman's career.

 

Walcott was at the end of his career; Foreman was only about 1/3 of the way through is career. Not a valid comparison.

Anyway, Foreman has the odds in this fight, but if he doesn't catch Walcott in the first five rounds or so he's totally stuffed. I rate Walcott above Jimmy Young or Gregorio Peralta, and as a mover certainly above Norton. I give Foreman the odds only because I think that an aggressive Foreman would force Walcott into dangerous spots with that ramrod jab and set up KO/TKO opportunities.

 

That may have had something to do with the fact that he'd been exhausted by chasing after Young in the heat and getting busted up.

Young had a slightly better defence than Walcott, but Walcott had more power. Even a light-puncher like Young, because of his accuracy, could make Foreman fight cautiously.

Both those picking Walcott and those who think this is a mismatch in favour of Foreman have got it wrong.

 

I think that Jersey Joe is very underrated by too many folks and that George tends to be overrated. They both would have a good shot at winning. Walcott with his slick moves and his sneaky power against a slower, clumsy brute force with great power. Sometimes I think our minds are more fresh with the more recent boxers than with the fighters of a few decades ago and we tend to forget the skills and abilities of the old timers and sell them short.

 

Niether point is valid really because we are talking primes, and both examples are probably the worst performances in each man's respective careers. The problem with Walcott is he's just a bad matchup really, if he had a granite chin it would've been a different story but he didn't. His whole modus operendi was to set up traps and counter's with flash footwork, feints and tricky jabs, after tagging them he'd clinch and reset. Walcott would def. tag and make Foreman look silly but it wouldn't achieve much but enrage Foreman and if he tried to clinch and reset he'd just get shoved back to a distance he couldn't manage and have that hard, fast jab stuck in his face. Also a subtle ability Foreman possessed was the fact he actually set his punches up, more so than just jabbing but also cuttign off the ring, physically moving and spinning his man and sometimes throwing looping bodyshots in order to move them infront of him. He also gets HIGHLY underrated for his punching accuracy, and all it'd take is one good shot to have Walcott reeling and a few more to finish the job.

 

HA HA Ron Lyle lasted 5 and had Foreman on the verge of being stopped a few times....not so sure the prime version of Foreman can take what Marciano can dish out (Marciano has a different style than Frazier and 2 hands and Lyle could not punch near the level of Marciano) I always laugh when I hear this like Marciano is Frazier's twin brother....I dont think anyone would bet against Marciano lasting 2 rounds and the Lyle fight is a good example of how Foreman fights while getting hit back, he came out on top but the ref could have stopped it a few times in Lyles favor

 

It would be pretty competitive. Joe would give George problems,but Foreman would catch up eventually by cutting the ring off,and scoring a kayo around the sixth or seventh round.

 

P4P, Marciano is ranked among the elite when discussing punchers, but your comparing a 6'3 230lb man with someones that's 5'11 185lbs. I thinks its fanciful to make such a statement so matter of factly. Lyle was a big hitter dude. Some people refuse to think logically when comparing their favorites to others.

 

In my opinion Walcott's probably the best defensive heavyweight all-time, and he's also one of the greatest counterpunchers in the history of this division. He went 15 rounds with Charles and 13 with Marciano, at 38 years old. I'm not exactly sure how you can say Young was more durable than him.

Besides, Foreman at 28 years old is a lot closer to prime than Walcott at 39 against Marciano.