The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Sergio is NOT at 154lbs. In turn, he is not ranked at 154lbs.

 

sergio could have come down as he offered and beat cotto....technically cotto ain't the best at 154 when floyd fought him.

 

But he did not come down. He has no claim whatsoever to be the best at 154lbs currently, or when Mayweather beat Cotto. That's like claiming either Mayweather or Pacquiao can still make 140lbs, so lets rank them as the best 2 there. Let's not stop there, Mayweather and Pacquiao are still the best in every division they have previously been in.

It can be argued that given his previous achievements and experience, also given how improved Cotto has been in a lot of areas since he hooked up with Garcia...he is/was the best at 154lbs at the time Mayweather beat him.

 

Castillo and Corrales are way overrated in ESB.

Corrales used his weight to advantage but he really does not have much to his arsenal. He is slow, does not even fight tall.

Kostya has more pedigree than those two, whose actual pedigree is having a round robin among themselves.

 

He can not even fight a midget without coming up with PEDS, HEALTH, so you expect him to fight a ATG?

He is a cherrypicker!

 

Timothy Bradley 29-0 (12 KO)

Was #1 at 140 before moving up in weight.
Unified champion at 140.
Beat Manny Pacquiao.
Current WBO welterweight champion.
Ranked #1 at Welterweight by Boxrec.

Chris John 47-0-2 (22 KO)

WBA super world featherweight champion.
Has faced and beat Juan Manuel Marquez.
Is scheduled to face Chonlatarn Piriyapinyo (44-0 (27 KO))
Has been a WBA champion for the last 8 years.

Kell Brook 29-0 (19 KO)

Has worked his way up to be IBF mandatory.
His resume is pretty much the exact same as Canelo's.

Saul Alvarez 41-0 (30 KO)

WBC light middleweight world champion.
Is only 22.
Has a win over a faded but still a HOF worthy Shane Mosley.
Ranked #2 at light middle weight by Boxrec behind fellow undefeated great Floyd Mayweather.

Nathan Cleverly 24-0 (11 KO)

WBO light heavy weight champion.
Took the 0 off of Tony Bellew and Karo Murat.
Went to Bellews backyard to defend his title.

Tyson Fury 19-0 (14 KO)

Rated #5 by the WBC at heavyweight.
Former English, Irish, British and Commonwealth champion.
Took the 0 off of Pajkic, Chisora, Nascimento and Power.
Is facing Denis Boytsov in a clash where 50 men have tried 50 men have failed against these two respected warriors.

There is a small list of undefeated greats, I'll list some more later.

 

Oibighead is a Floyd nutsucker. He's just pretending to be a *******.. Dont feed the troll!

 

That's some logic...

 

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Just face it, Floyd ducked every fighter in every weight class apart from the 43 that he faced. This seems to be the theory on this forum!!

People just list fighters that he never faced and blame Floyd. even though Cotto admitted he never called out Floyd and Shane admitted he pulled out of the fight they both get named on a daily basis as guys Floyd ducked.

Pacmans record at 130 and below for me is great and his win against Cotto even at the catch weight is a great win. JMM will always have his number and vice versa no shame in that JMM really is a great fighter.

Floyd has an excellent record overall but lacks the defining fight. A win over Pac/Sergio would seal his legacy. Most of Floyd's wins come against fighters that most on esb have never heard of. They see Coralles and castillio and think they know them because they watched round 10 of their first fight, they have never heard of Hernandez etc.

 

Mayweather has a great resume, but some of his wins get overrated.

Baldomir - I don't care how the belts he won made him #1... he wasn't
Mosley - good win, but tired of the he was "#3 p4p" nonsense.... losing to Cotto, going life and death with Mayorga and beating Margarito don't make you #3 p4p
Chico - great win, a masterclass
Genaro - great win
JLC rematch - great win
Oscar - great win
Cotto - slightly overrated win but good

 

Doesn't make any sense?!!!

 

silly post. by that logic.....

nah no point, you already know

 

Not crazy about considering Cotto the best at 154 due to how thin his resume is there, but then again, that division has been a damn mess for so long that he might get that distinction on the basis of work in the lower classes. This of course should not be taken as support for dodong's absurd suggestion that Sergio Martinez should somehow be considered the best there.

 

you could argue its not his fault.

He's beaten the best available that's for sure. But just because they were the best available at the time, that doesn't mean they are great wins.