Was Calzaghe's masterclass V Roy Jones the most . . . . . . .

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  1. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Roy Jones is from New York?:huh
     
  2. HerolGee

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    Yeah... no.

    Anabolics work specifically on protein, that which makes up muscle.

    The increase in Basal Metabolic rate that you are referring to is what happens with any muscle gain - ie if you gain muscle through weight traning ALONE, then you get an increase in basal metabolic rate. In other words the effect is secondary to the muscle gain, not the drug.

    So the guy using anabolics and weights and guy using weights without anabolics to gain the same amount of muscle will experience the same increase in BMR.

    The one truth in your argument is that it takes less effort and time to gain the muscle using anabolics, thus freeing up a little more time for other kinds of training. But some careful planning of training in advance gets you to the same place without anabolics.

    Yeah, my source. Consultant cardiologist's mouth. I dont want to boast, but everyone in my year would agree with me and disagree with you.
     
  3. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Nope, he aint even from New Jersey
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    med schooled, my dear man. Not that you'd have guessed by now.

    But I did give you every chance. Noone can say I'm not a nice bloke.
     
  5. knockout artist

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    Why are you only talking specifically in the context of weight lifting? When boxers train, they break down muscles in their legs, stomach and back as well as their arms. Hence, these benefits will be experienced in different parts of the body, which allows for a more vigorous training schedule - meaning superior speed, stamina, strength and technique :deal

    There's a reason why boxers have used illegal performance enhancers in the past, and there's a reason why they're banned :lol::rofl. If you want to argue that they're not really beneficial then good luck with that! :nut
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    if you want to assume that I'm arguing that, then good luck with that assumption, is what you mean.

    Its interesting that you'd say 'break down muscles' in a discussion on anabolic steroids. You shouldnt do that to yourself.

    Always read before you bleed.
     
  7. Mind Reader

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    Andro is an anabolic steroid period, but was banned by the IBF.. So Roy admitting to taking a supplement that contained an anabolic steroid, that was banned by the IBF, to cover up what?
     
  8. ELECTRIC GURU

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    no pal. boxers risk their entire reputation because they know PEDs will make their performance levels worse :lol::lol::lol::rofl:patsch
     
  9. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    If you want to convince yourself that banned anabolic steroids can't bring boxers any valuable advantages, then by all means go ahead. Word to the wise though, don't be surprised if people don't take you seriously. I'm sure you're a smart guy in person herol, maybe you've just had difficulties conveying that on here


    Someone needs to put herol in contact with the commissions, lift the ban on steroids, apparently they reduce performance levels!
     
  10. ELECTRIC GURU

    ELECTRIC GURU Active Member Full Member

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    dude, gotta shoot, will be back on tomoro to answer and debate :deal
     
  11. Mind Reader

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    Funny when Europeans say fighting in Vegas and New York is an American's "back yard" or "home" like they don't have to get on planes and sleep in their own beds.:lol:

    Vegas feels just as foreign to me as anywhere else..:yep
     
  12. MAJR

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    "When the best fighters were shot"? Would that be Bernard Hopkins who was still in the top Pound for Pound list a year or so after he lost to Calzaghe and was still dominating the Light Heavyweight Division until the tail end of 2011?
     
  13. irishny

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    Perhaps..can ANY of that be said for Jones though?
     
  14. timeout

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    The Team Elite generals are really taking the thread to another level.:good:bbb:good

    And exposing that Joe is truly a legend that we will not see again in our lifetime.:deal:bart
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    again, you mean to say, its you who wants to be convinced I am saying banned anabolic steroids cant bring boxers advantages, because if I did say that, it allows you the false conviction to fabricate your 'word to wise' speech. If you'd followed what I wrote you wouldnt be writing that.

    I am sure you'd feel shortchanged if I fabricated that you claimed Calzaghe could beat a prime Jones, Holyfield and Ali. But I feel no insecure need to make false suggestions about your post content.