Was Calzaghe's masterclass V Roy Jones the most . . . . . . .

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the silky skills.
too quick
too strong
too slick

 

No. But that would make the statment "Calzaghe only went to America when the best fighters were shot as much as the houses in Palestine" half right or half wrong depending on your point of view.

Personally I see the Calzaghe/Jones fight as a big payday and nothing more, but the Calzaghe/Hopkins fight was a legitimate contest where the Super Middlewight King was stepping up to take on the Light Heavyweight King, two guys in the top Pound for Pound list facing off against each other, not a contest where one guy was at the top of his game and the other was a shadow of his former greatness. Frankly, Hopkins was dangerous enough at the time, and stayed dangerous enough afterward, that it is an insult to him to say his loss to Calzaghe was anything to do with "age" or being "shot"

 

You stated:

So in essence, you refuse to acknowledge the advantages that anabolic steroids can bring to elite athletes? Or you agree that I was right before when I stated they allowed for increased intensity in training? Which would in turn improve all of the aforementioned attributes?

Be clearer herol, no-one is following you which is why you have a handful of posters laughing at you

 

By being clear, do you mean to include my post on BMR, or are you discluding that so that you dont lose your argument?

in a nutshell, the bit you missed is that muscle mass increases basal metabolic rate, and muscle mass can be gained with or without steroids. BMR leads to enchancements not related to exertion strength.

You must understand that the body is a set of related organs and tissues that interact.

 

Look at how sluggish Roy's punches look... Some of the slowest I have seen him throw.. He is sucking wind pretty hard too, not seen much in prime Jones.. Also, look at how his legs look like they have 10 lb weights on them..

 

Masterclass performance by Joe. Both men were close to the same age so no advantage there to Joe. Joe came to New York to fight Roy so advantage to Roy. Joe outspeeded and outboxed a still very hard hitting, quick-handed Roy in an awesomely entertaining fight. The recently deceased and great Manny Steward stated as late as the seventh or eighth round that the fight could go either way. He also stated early in the fight as the action heated up that neither man had ever faced a fighter with the speed that these two boxers brought to the table that night in the big apple. Just a great, entertaining fight and a wonderful victory to conclude the storied career of an all-time great boxer, Joe Calzaghe.

 

None of that is pertinent to what I asked

Do you seriously deny that anabolic steroids can lead to increased power, speed and stamina? (The key words being 'can lead to')

 

Silly thread.

 

Troll alert!

 

Where have I said that. I wrote home fighter not hometown fighter.
You dummys think Calzaghe was at home by fighting in Scotland a completely different country.
Jones is American and the fight was in America. Jones was the home fighter

 

Its ENTIRELY relevant but you dont want to admit it is.

I'll break up the wheat from the chaff for you, since you are making things up again. I dont know why you feel the need to do that.

you are assuming I would claim they dont lead to increased power, when I've already written that they increase power. Why would you do that? I dont reverse your claims. Just read or better still quote what I wrote next time.

comparing athletes with the same muscle mass gain one steroided, one nonsteroided, not they dont. Both undrugged and drugged athletes with the same muscle mass will feel the same increase in Basal metabolic rate (which affects energy levels).

And of course, excessive muscle gain slows you down.

 

well said bailey.:good
Its a simple premise, but it appears that the janks are struggling with this concept.atsch

They think if they leave their state, they are in another country.:roflatsch

 

Dont see it that way sorry.:huh
He still looks fast and those punches are carrying some power. :deal After all hes roided and last thing fighter loses is power.

Its true his sucking wind hard. thats because joe roughed him up in the stomach like a 12 year old girl 2 rds prior to that.:hat

 

Joe beat up a guy who couldn't fight at the elite level anymore. It's that simple.

 

Denial

Projection

Distortion


3 textbook defence mechanisms all on display in this mess of a post :deal

In essence, we both know that using banned anabolic steroids can lead to the enhancement of all the aforementioned attributes. You've been made to look silly, and are now banging your head against a wall trying to convince yourself that everyone's wrong but you

http://www.e-steroid.com/steroid-articles/athlete-steroid-use.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/billdobbins6.htm

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