Was Calzaghe's masterclass V Roy Jones the most . . . . . . .

:rofl:rofl BerolPee brutally pwned and obliterated in front of a global audience of millions. And to think this fart-sauce merchant pretends to be a medical student. :nut

 

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Ironic, seeing as you are the one who appears to have denied flatout that I'd said muscle gain from steroids use or non steroidal exercise increase the basal metabolic rate. Why would you ignore the facts I gave you?

If you've simply not understood what I wrote then thats cool with me, but you'll forgive me for becoming suspicious that you are just trying to appear to be right rather than perusing the facts.


So if you are being genuine then read on, if not, stop here.

One way you can improve your post quality on this subject is to avoid quoting a website that is supported by steroid sales. Use a medical journal. If you had done that, you'd have avoided being horribly misinformed that 'steroids buffer lactic acid'. They DONT. Period. The lynchpin of your counterargument is wrong.

It is the creatine in muscle which helps buffer lactic acid, and thus helps recovery from training. This is what your article writer SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN, but he didnt, because he wants to relate improvement to steroids as as to market them. Creatine is natural in muscles. (The article writer should have written that since anabolics build muscle fast, they aid in recovery from training a little faster, by REBUILDING damaged muscle faster than someone on no supplements at all).

But to return to the key word, creatine.

More muscle mass=more creatine.

If you now recall my previous post - more muscle=higher BMR. It doesnt matter whether that muscle is gained using anabolics or not, AS LONG AS YOU GET THE EXTRA MUSCLE, YOU GET THE EXTRA CREATINE and the extra BMR.




Theres no real point in further denying that anabolics act by increasing muscle mass primarily, and the secondary effects of raised BMR are a result of the muscle mass, not the drug, unless you are auditioning for Team Elite levels of ignorance.

 

heres one we prepared earlier. too long in the oven.


dont end up like this.

 

Which is what I stated in the first place you clown! You could have saved yourself time writing out all that irrelevant rubbish if you would have just admitted I was right in the first place. That increased recovery time means you can train at a higher intensity, leading to improved strength, stamina speed and power :deal

You accusing someone else of being ignorant? Pot kettle black

 

no, I havent said what you said, its you who is claiming stamina and speed. I have claimed strength alone, with 2ndary effects related to muscle growth and NOT related to the steroids themselves as you are claiming. You are treating ALL these effects and more as stemming from steroids themselves. They dont come from the steroid, clearly and blatantly. You've never mentioned creatine once yet, but were happy to follow an article that falsely told you that anabolic steroids buffer lactic acid. An anabolic steroid could NEVER act as a buffer, it doesnt have the dual formations needed to do that in the bloodstream.

I've only ever said it helps build muscle mass. Muscle mass can be gained through weight training alone. Two equal body builders with the same muscle mass and the same 2ndary effects from that muscle mass will have the same speed and stamina, even if one is peded to the eyeballs with anabolics and one has zero anabolics. Do you understand why you have to compare like for like? You MUST understand this scientific requirement, if not I think this is where you are going wrong.

The one way that you can legit claim that anabolics helps you recover faster is because they build muscle faster, they can build damaged muscle faster too. Do you understand that building muscle and rebuilding muscle are the same claims, since muscle is in a constant state of building and rebuilding throughout your life?

 

You would try and argue that the earth is flat, and the moon is made of cheese to try and save face, instead of just admitting you misinterpreted what I originally wrote. It's ok to concede herol, no-one will think any less of you

 

I can see that you are writing that because you want to 'win' -thats why you are pretending that I am talking about speed and fitness. Its you talking about them, and never me.

I just want to put across the facts - anabolics build muscle. The exact mechanism for how this happens in muscle tissue is here - wiki- anabolic steroids -The pharmacodynamic action of anabolic steroids begin when the exogenous hormone penetrates the membrane of the target cell and binds to an [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_receptor"]androgen receptor[/ame] located in the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytoplasm"]cytoplasm[/ame] of that cell..... either alters the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_expression"]expression[/ame] of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene"]genes[/ame][22] or activates processes that [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_transduction"]send signals[/ame] to other parts of the cell. The effect of anabolic steroids on muscle mass is caused in at least two ways:[25] first, they increase the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_biosynthesis"]production of proteins[/ame]; second, they reduce recovery time by blocking the effects of stress hormone [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortisol"]cortisol[/ame] on muscle tissue, so that [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catabolism"]catabolism[/ame] of muscle is greatly reduced. It has been [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesized"]hypothesized[/ame] that this reduction in muscle breakdown may occur through anabolic steroids inhibiting the action of other steroid hormones called [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucocorticoid"]glucocorticoids[/ame] that promote the breakdown of muscles.[26] Anabolic steroids also affect the number of cells that develop into fat-storage cells, by favouring [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_differentiation"]cellular differentiation[/ame] into muscle cells instead.[27] Anabolic steroids can also decrease fat by increasing [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_metabolic_rate"]basal metabolic rate[/ame] (BMR), since an increase in muscle mass increases BMR.

If you can post up the mechanisms for how anabolics increase speed and fitness instead of paraphrasing 'schooled you' with no actual answer as to how your claim works, then it'd be great to hear from you. You can have eternity to reply in - happy searching.

 

Thanks champ

atsch BerolPee looking a twat again

Herol has been brutally dismantled. Herol has been backed into corners and is now making himself look even more foolish when trying to argue his way out

 

I guess Willie Wise's performance over Chavez Sr was masterclass as well...

 

Can you imagine what a '98 Roy Jones would have done to Joe? ...Holy hell.

 

If roy was beating cab drivers during his prime, then joe was beating the homeless. Regardless of delusional resume ripping, the fight at that point in time put a well past it jones against a slightly declining joe. It says nothing about how it would of went prime vs prime. A decent win, because jones was winning well picked fights and was still relevant in the media, and you still gotta win, but no masterclass on any level, and any unbiased eye knows it. Anytime prior to 2003 that is an entirely different fight.