Vitali - Is it time to stop ducking David Haye?

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Come on Hermit, he said he would fight the Haye-Chisora winner. How is that any different from when Lewis said he would fight Vits and retire? Personalty I have no problem with him bowing out. More fighters should get out while still at or near the top. But its no different than the Lewis situation.
     
  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn, you're a ****ing idiot for real. VITTLES IS 41, you moron! And who said anything about Foreman? The fact is Vits has 4 less years wear and tear than any other fighter who fights as frequently and doesn't take that time off. As far as Wlad goes, lets not forget he had 35 fights before fighting for a minor world title. We know you and your ilk like to forget this while you call for the Klits to fight guys with less than 20 fights. Lol, you guys are pathetic! :yep
     
  3. BadDog

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    Vitaly is 41, but turning 42 soon.
    Of course, avoid the Foreman argument, cause it makes you look stupid, so just disregard it. It's ok, that's how stupid people argue.
    "Wlad having almost twice more fights then Lewis" argument should be brushed off too, cause then according to your logic Wlad should be in worse condition at 30 then Lewis at 37, but you can just call everyone, who points that out stupid, and maybe even use high caps.
    Also, add NO DOUBT in bold font at the end.

    By the way, Vitaly also had a long kickboxing career, but it's irrelevant too. Right?
     
  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's turning 42 in July unless his date of birth is incorrect you idiot. And answer me this smart guy.....did Foreman have the same wear and tear on his body as he would have had he been fighting the ten years he took off? Ill anxiously await your avoidance of this question.

    Again, as far as a Wlad/Lewis comparison, try looking at the difference in competition and you should be able to come up with your answer if you have any objectivity at all.

    By the way, work on your math skills. 61 is not twice as much as 44. Dope.
     
  5. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Vitali is becoming an embarrassment.
     
  6. BadDog

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    if Foreman would train instead of stuffing himself with food for 10 years he would be in better shape. Dumb Ass.

    Comparison in competition is a stupid argument. Wlad also had brutal fights where he was TKOed like Lewis, or fought competitive fights with multiple knockdowns, like Sam Peter fight. Plus he had a lot more fights.

    Just like I though, now you don't even mention Vitaly's kickboxing carreer which took a lot out of him.:lol: Just like it never happened.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You didn't answer the question. If Foreman had fought the entire ten years before he came back would his body have the same wear and tear on it? Its ok, we all already know the answer, I just like watching you avoid it. :yep

    Comparison in competition is totally relevant when talking about wear and tear on a fighter. Only a fool wouldn't be able to see this. And Lewis' comp was FAR tougher than Wlads. Sam Peter wouldn't even be in the top five fighters LL fought.

    That's good, you bring up Vits Kickboxing and I'll retort with Lennon's extensive world class amateur background.

    I'm obviously debating with a child, because you got nothing for me kid. This is to EASY!! :lol:
     
  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where oh where has my BadDog gone!? :lol:
     
  9. BadDog

    BadDog Active Member Full Member

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    You are a fool, all your arguments are subjective and not facts. Also, I did answer the question about Foreman. If he would fight for 10 years instead of sitting on the couch and eating chips and drinking beer he would be in better shape. Obviously. Which Foreman do you think wins the fight, the one who didn't train a single day in 10 years or the one who trained and fought for 10 years?:-(
    Also, Vitaly was an amateur boxer too. And regarding Sam Peter not being top 5 in 90s, a lot worse fighters were in top 5 in 90s. Mcneely was fifth when he fought Tyson, just watch YouTube video. Peter would blow him away as fast as Tyson. Glass jaw Morrison was in top 5 or 10. Awful Ruddock, who never even heard of boxing fundamentals was a top fighter back then. Glass jaw light HW Moorer and Crazy Golota all were top fighters in 90s. AND 47 year old grandpa Foreman.
     
  10. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    Right after the Wlad fight and I was very angry about this stupid comment. Wlad won and Vitali should have been proud of his brother and not talking this ****.

    Now he needs to fight Haye nobody else.
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, I'm a fool? You still haven't answered the question. One more time for the slow people, that means you....we're not talking about if a fighter stays in shape while he's out of the sport. SOOOO.....if a fighter retires and comes back (read carefully) does he have more or less wear and tear on his body than a fighter that has been continually fighting during his absence? Its a simple question. You either have to say yes he does or no he doesn't and make your case. You still haven't done this, son.

    And don't kid yourself, Sam Peter was crude and overrated. He barely scraped by a 90's middleweight. He loses to Ruddock, Morrison, Golota and Moorer's. Of douse this is all arguable, but that isn't the point. Bringing up McNeely just shows me how desperate you're becoming. Now answer the question above because you're making a gigantic ass of yourself. :yep

    By the way, I know you will avoid the question again but I'm getting a huge laugh knowing that you know you can't answer it without looking foolish! :lol:
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    nothing embarrassing about this guy though huh?

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  13. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    i like how you want to hold Vitali to one quote he made in general conversation and not sitting around a negotiating table or after signing a contract. Haye has went back on his word 100 times. heres a nice big one, when he could have been fighting a vitali klitschko

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  14. JAB5239

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  15. BadDog

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    Even though a fighter might get more wear and tear, he'll still would be better then a guy who sits on a couch for 10 years with beer and junk food. And that was my answer.

    I also asked you a question, which you didn't answer. Which Foreman wins the fight, the one who sits on a couch for 10 years with beers and junk food, or the one who trains and fight for the same 10 years? layoffs

    Did you ever even saw Ruddock fight? He throws a a left, and his right is at his waist. I never saw Peter doing something like that. Mcneely was num 5. go to youtube and watch Tyson Mcneely video and **** off. Golota got DQed against everybody. He even lost to Grant. Morrision got brutally KOed by bums. How are these people better then Peter? He probably would blow all of them away. Moorer would get ****ed against him. A lot of fighters of the 90s are highly overrated.