Most talented boxer?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who was the best boxer in terms of raw talent?
     
  2. Rider51

    Rider51 New Member Full Member

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    SRR? Pep? Greb? Griffith? Louis? SRL? Sanchez? Benitez?

    Way too many to choose from. Where do you start?
     
  3. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Roy Jones by a country mile.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Willie Pep followed by Pernell Whitaker IMO
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    There were better boxers than Roy Jones. He had an awesome combination of power, speed & athleticism but technically he was inferior to quite a few, why do you think he started losing so badly when his reflexes started to go, his basics weren`t strong enough to allow him to compete at a good level without his physical gifts.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Raw talent ? Probably someone we've never heard of.
     
  7. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Show me a guy without the ability to pull the trigger, and I'll show you a shot fighter. He was ad******g as he got older. A much more effective high guard, circling his way in to shoot his power punches, and much more defensively minded. He got KO'd by Tarver and was done. One shot ended his career as a world class fighter.
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Exactly my point + even at his best there were better boxers, Ali, Pep, Whitaker, Leonard, Sanchez & Robinson for starters. Jones was one of the greats though, no doubt but not the best.
     
  9. Vyborg1917

    Vyborg1917 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would Pep and Whitaker be marked down due to a lack of innate power? Surely an inherent type of talent.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    If they were bigger punchers they likely wouldn`t have been as good a `boxers` as they were, when you don`t have a big punch there is only one way to win & thats out-skill your opponent & you need to be good enough to do that just about every time out.
     
  11. Vyborg1917

    Vyborg1917 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, but he's talking about raw talent. Clearly those guys must have been off the charts in terms of natural, god-given speed and reflexes; I see power in a similar light.

    In terms of development, you're probably right that there wouldn't have been quite the necessity to develop such subtle skills if they had a big equalizer to fall back on.
     
  12. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always thought Roy Jones has the talent to be one of the top 3 or 4 boxers ever. However, it never really panned out for him. But talentwise, he was right up there
     
  13. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't Oscar de la Hoya win a Latin Grammy? RJ never even sniffed an award that prestigious.
     
  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll go out on a limb, and pick James Toney. Shame he had no dedication.