Who could hit harder Wlad or Lewis ?

Desnt matter if Wlad hits harder because he doesnt have the balls to let his hands go

Hard to believe Haye a blown up cruiser weight would be standing in front of Lewis with his hands around his waist smiling .

 

Very fair point. I wasnt using this as an example of how hard the super heavyweights of today are punching compared to the smaller guys of the more distant past. Not so much to bend statistical evidence to show Klitschko punching superiority over Lewis. I would never claim that Vitali hits harder than Lewis, regardless of what that somewhat flawed stat shows. That being said, to be fair, I do think Peter was in the peak shape of his career when Wlad fought him the first time (although, Wladimir did NOT ko him, now did he)

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Mccline was in very good shape, and had beaten 3 legit top ten heavies in a row...

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Chagaev was not a patty cake, and his resume was really top notch at the timein todays scene...

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There is more examples, but you get what Im saying. Which is not every one they fight is a big fat tub of untalented **** :good

 

Come on now. You know that Haye was a tactical, defensive minded, slippery little ******* in that fight. He was using his feet and head movement all night trying to not get hit and catch Wladimir reaching so he could land a big counter punch. That is not a great point to dismiss Wladimir's power at all. Now, I could use the example of a blown up cruiser weight standing right in front of Lewis for 24 rounds and never getting knocked down once...

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BBig clean overhand right; little old guy is still standing there.

 

I think Stewart said Wlad has more 1 punch KO power.

 

Lewis threw bombs at holyfield Wlad was afraid of being hit the entire fight also Haye hasnt got holyfields chin was knocked down by Mormeck
Yet the hardest hitting heavy weight ever was to afraid to throw

 

I don't think there is much in it, but Wlad also has a huge left hook. Lewis was always looking to the right hand where Wlad is also very strong.

 

Lewis had more powerfull uppercuts and right hooks imo, the rest goes to Wladimir me thinks.

 

So we agree then. Haye made it through beacause Wladimir couldnt hit him clean (outside of a couple reaching right hands) regardless of the reason, and Lewis threw bombs at a much more stationary small target and couldn't drop him once.
Lennox Lewis KO%-72%
Wladimir Klitschko KO%-82%

That stat can be interpreted however you want, but there is no way to accept that a guy with an 82% ko ratio never lets his hands go. You may not like his method, but there is no denying that the guy gets the job DONE!! :good

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I will give you the point with the KO ratio but i can think of a single Wlad KO which was a one punch KO
Its usually a combination of being grabed and leaned on for 6-8 rounds and being jabbed before Wlad throws his power shots

Also look at the lvl of fighter lewis was fighting compared to what Wlad has been fighting

 

What about the Brock KO right in front of you? Chambers only a couple of fight backs, Mormeck although thats hardly amazing. These are all fairly recent.

 

Seriously Lennox does hit like a mule, I saw someone say before that he hit Vitali but he didn't go down...That argument has no bearing on the situation because it's a proven fact that you could drive a Mack Truck into Vitali's chin and he wouldn't go down. the uppercut that Lennox landed on Vitali would KO every single other heavyweight fighting today and with the exception of a few maybe ever...

I would argue however that Wlad does hit harder, hell Wlad retire's fighters...you can make a case that folowing their fight with Wlad all of these guys were ruined... Post 2000

Byrd 2 fights...never the same
Chambers not sure he was anything to begin with
Barrett (Before Wlad 23-1, after Wlad 11-8-2)
Shufford good record before, terrible after
Brewster same as byrd
Castillo still has nightmares of that straight right
Peter went from most feared to joke status
Ibragimov never fought again

 

HA! Great point. you sure got that **** right!:rofl:good

 

Wladimir definitely

 

Ok, ok. One punch KO's? Shufford, Brock, Thompson 1, Castillo, and all kinds of earlier career dog meat ( I acknowledge these arent that great, but are Lewis'?)
As far as the opposition goes, the average record of a Wladimir KO victim is 26-2. The average record of a Lewis KO victim is also 26-2. As stated earlier, the average weight of a Wladimir KO victim is 233. The average weight of a Lewis victim is 227. Lewis has KO'd 6 fighters who had never been KO'd before. Wladimir has done 17. Lewis KO'd 2 previously UNBEATEN fighters. Wladimir has KO'd 4.
Lewis has KO'd 12 men heavier than himself. Wladimir has KO'd 27. Lewis KO'd 0 southpaws (never fought one). Wladimir has KO'd 7 of them. This demonstrates that Wladimirs power is effective against all shapes and styles, with very few exceptions.
These stats can be viewed however you want, but my point is that just because Wladimir hasnt KO'd as many fighters that you are familiar with or a fan of, doesnt mean he only fights bums. His opposition is clearly on par with Lewis, even though a good bit of it has been Soviet block guys.

 

Don't mention the Blog, people will hate you for it. (I won't, but don't cite it. That guy isn't loved)

But when you divide boxing resume in 2 catogories: Southpaw resume and orthodox resume.
Wladimir is the undisputed GOAT southpaw beater.(at hw)
Second come Holyfield (a true warrior who isn't scared of anyone) and Vitali.
Both Lewis and Tyson never fought a southpaw on purpose.

Mildenberger an ok featherfisted southpaw who would be easily a cruiser today could frustrate Ali for 12 rounds. (And he didn't have a very solid chin), only southpaw Ali faced professionally.
Ali also lost to southpaws a few times as an amateur.