If Amir Khan had Carl Froch's ability to take a shot?

anybody with a decent inside game would still take him apart

 

:huh the man who knocked him from piller to post for nigh on 2 rounds won't fight him:huh

if khan had a good chin like frochs,he would still get beat,he is a good fighter,but not that good,he cannot ,chin or no chin mix it with the top tier.

i understand pa kistannis need a pa kistanni role model to love,but come on,he has done well for his limited skillset,come on darni,admit it,come on darni it won't hurt that much mate :hey

 

Darni is just in denial.

It's clear that Khan's weak chin IS his most significant shortcoming.

Of course, plenty of fighters with weak chins have had good careers, likewise fighters with crap defences.

Khan is unfortunate at this stage to have both.

Garcia wouldn't think twice about a rematch, he probably just wants the right money, given that he's still unbeaten and holds a KO win over Khan already - and rightly so.

Or thinks ''I whacked him convincingly enough first time, why bother?'' - again, he's justified in holding that view too.

 

if he had Froch's chin he would have brain damage already, even if your chin is good you can still get marked up and cut etc imagine how many left hooks he woulda took from Garcia, tbh at least that chin will help me him concentrate on defense

 

Lets make it clear, Khan fought the wrong type of fight and was still winning the fight until the left hook landed now with a more think first and box approach Hunter will bring to Khan Garcia would have problems landing his money left on Khan's neck again.

A mindful Khan beats Garcia with not too much trouble in my view, i dont rate Garcia too high, and Khan would be very unlucky if Garcia caught Khan on the neck again.

Angel knows if Khan boxes from range and plays it safe Garcia will find it hard to win rounds, on a boxing level Garcia will struggle as he is no pressure fighter and needs fighters to come to him so he can time and counter, if you dont play his game then he a one trick pony too that left hook cant keep winning him fights

 

He'd do better but he'd probably still get beaten, Khan's problem is he doesn't learn his lessons, he got buzzed by Limond and Gomez and then when he went in against an unknown quantity in Prescott rather than use his brain and think "right this guy has stopped all but 2 of his opponents and I've been hurt a couple of times so I'll take it cautiously" he rushed in and got pulverised.

Then he sacks the Cuban fella who replaced Oliver Harrison which basically says "it's the trainers fault" so no lesson learned there. Then under Roach he goes on a run of wins picking up his first title, goes in against "dangerous puncher" Maidana(which I don't think he was that dangerous but hey ho) wins and takes a few licks in the process and all of a sudden he's Jake Lamotta.

Started off well against Peterson but lost his head and ended up losing, next up Garcia, again starts off well but it all goes to **** and he gets clobbered. Parts company with Roach "Roach's fault"

From what I see of him he lacks any sort of boxing brain, he can't adapt when the fight deviates from the plan he went into the ring with. Unless he uses his brain to think problems through while in the ring he's going to get his arse handed to him, good punch resistance or not.

 

i would like to see the Garcia rematch, just to have an end to the talk either way

Khan should watch this to see how you deal with a devestating left hook artist, who needs you to let him land his left hook

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq9lBt-pKJ8[/ame]

and the thing is, Tua was actually a better front foot fighter than Garcia, with a P4P more devestating left hook

then again, Khan is no Lewis

 

Thing is Garcia times that left really well, he throws it while you start to throw yours, key would for Khan for most part always start with his left mostly his jab and keep that right hand right on his chin. If Khan can keep on the move it wont give Garcia time to really plant his feet and really set that left hand up.

Khan doubling up on his jab would be a useful tactic and then time that right hand after seeing what Garcia is looking to do, just be more aware and patient which Hunter is working on with him.

 

yup, he'd have to mix it up on occasion too, but just only throw combos very infrequently, always moving away from the left hook, and clinch immediately after, similar to what wlad did against most opponents.

i'm sure Virgil Hunter knows what he's doing though he seems very grounded which will be good for Khan, I honestly think Freddie thought khan was better than he is, I think Hunter knows what khan is and isn't, and what to work on

 

Roach was on a good run with Manny and Khan, and after a few fights with Khan Roach started to trust Khan and gave him the green light to go in there all action style which now we can see dont work with Khan because his defence and decision making at times is poor.

Khan needs to fight to his strengths and protect his weaknesses which i think Hunter will outline.

 

If Roach can't teach Khan ring IQ ? what makes you think Hunter can? It all boils down to the fighter himself, and Khan is clearly lacking. not his fault but he's as thick as ****.

 

roach is an offensive trainer

i know that when it comes to khan people want it to all be amirs fault, because they don't like him

"he's just a thick, glass chinned ****"

but there is blame all round

in football, the manager is the one who gets blamed, yeah

some if it's khan but some of it's roach

roach trained khan to fight like Pac, because they both have quick hands

not a good idea

 

This, his chin is only one of his many flaws. He'd also need better footwork, defense, and an ability to fight inside if he was to iron out all the *****s in his armour.

 

I see your point but I think Roach done bloody well to get a fighter as flawed as Khan to the level he did, Khan just thinks its a case of changing trainer and everything will be alright, Im sorry but it don't work like that.

For anyone in any walk of life, you need to acknoledge your faults and weaknesses in able to improve, something Khan will never do because he's an egotystical Melon.

 

yeah Roach did well in terms of khans offence, although I actually think when khan beat Kotelnik (after only 2 camps) he was at his best, after that he slowly started to deteriorate I think from Mcloskey fight onwards he was shoddy and had lost focus, Judah fighting like an utter twerp sort of hid it a bit.

We will see what hunter does, there is no way he can turn Amir into a defensive genius, but Amir is still pretty young, and can probably learn some defensive techniques and make some improvments

He'll never be floyd mayweather/manny pacquiao level but I do feel he can still be a solid, world level belt holder