The Klitschko Bros Have Devalued The Heavyweight Title - Lennox Lewis

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  1. Nay_Sayer

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    I don't remember Wlad ever talking about getting Sanders back in the ring after Sanders fought Vitali. Why is that?

    Why no immediate rematch with Brewster? Why did the Baby Klit wait for Brewster to come off of a one year + layoff AND eye surgery before that rematch could happen?

    Wlad = J O K E
     
  2. Overhill

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    Purses will be less than half for challengers and their teams after brothers are gone.

    No more big money fights without looking like an ass.

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  3. Maximus

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    Lennox trolling the Klitards again :lol:
     
  4. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But he hasn't actively chased ALL of the belts, because his brother has the other one.

    Bit of a weak point though. Yeah, I think it has slightly devalued the title, because even though Ears has annointed Wlad champ, I think up until the last couple of years, it would have been a pick 'em fight with Vitlay.

    But, having two brothers share the belts is a unique situation, and one I'm sure they are happy about. Wlad just has to plug along until his brother calls it quits, and I'm sure he'll pick the other belt up in no time.
    (still, if they weren't brothers I'd say it's a 50\50 fight until Vitlay got old, quick)
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    How can anyone respect the opinion of a man who gave up all three of his titles to avoid fighting his #1 Challengers? It was Lewis' fault that he splintered the titles out to begin with. What did he think that he was doing by being incredibly inactive, dropping his IBF title to avoid a fight with Byrd... dropping the WBA to avoid a fight with Ruiz... then eventually retired and vacating his WBC title after the WBC ordered that he rematch Vitali. Yet, Lewis was content on sitting around trying to sue Mike Tyson back into the ring, schedule a fight with Kirk Johnson which the WBC refused to even sanction... and give someone like Frans Botha a title shot after he got brutally knocked out by Tyson.


    Lewis was also the guy who came up with the idea for the title of "Super Champion" for guys that held more than one title belt. Many people don't even know that it was Lennox Lewis' suggestion to the WBA that started all this bull****. Lennox Lewis CREATED THE SUPER CHAMPION MESS!!!

    Lennox Lewis has done more to devalue and bring down the Heavyweight division than any other heavyweight champ in history.
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

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    WRONG.

    Lewis beat the Man who beat the Man who beat the Man who beat the Man who beat Bowe. That makes Lewis the Man.

    Excatly WHO has Wlad ever beaten?
     
  7. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Also Lewis shouldn't whine (I rank him as one of the greatest if not the greatest hw ever, even with some flaws on his side).

    If Wlad devalues the division by not fighting his brother there is nothing left to devalue because Lewis has dodged/ducked any southpaw while there is not a single top 10 ATG hw who has fought even half as many southpaws as Wladimir.(Holyfield if you rank him there has (4) wlad has fought 8 different southpaws)
     
  8. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good:good
     
  9. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Quite simple, Don King. Once Brewster had the WBO, there was no way DK was going to make a contract with Klitschko. Once Brewster was free of DK, the contract was made.

    After Sanders lost to Vitali, where did Sanders go? He wasn't a ranked contender anymore.

    Happy to educate you, run along now.
     
  10. dyna

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    He can't beat himself because Wlad is clearly the man now.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I take it that you weren't following boxing then? It was common knowledge that Wlad requested an immediate rematch from the WBO directly after losing to Sanders... which the WBA denied as they didn't allow immediate rematches at the time. So, Wlad did all he could do... fought a top 15 WBO opponent and held his spot as the next manditory challenger to Sanders' WBO title. However, Sanders decided to vacate the WBO without ever defending it and ruining that rematch. Sanders himself said in a video interview on maxboxing at the time that Wlad had been coming after him for a rematch, but that he wouldn't fight Wlad again until he beat Vitali.

    Wlad also requested an immediate rematch with Brewster. Brewster came out in several interviews saying that he would NEVER fight Wlad again unless he was forced to by the WBO with Wlad as a mandatory defense. His reasoning was that he felt Wlad took away from his victory with the drugging allegations after their first fight. Wlad then worked his way into mandatory position, Brewster STILL refused to fight him, opting to take the WBO's extention of 12-18 months before he would have to fight Wlad... so Wlad went ahead with the Byrd fight for the IBF title. Wlad then fought Brewster the next chance he got.

    All of this was common knowledge at the time. Wlad can't force guys into the ring. Just like Vitali couldn't force Lewis back into the ring. Some people like Lewis are fortunate enough for their conquerors to grant them rematches. However, others aren't always so lucky. Rematches are overrated anyways. What matters is what you do with your career after the loss. A win over an opponent you should have already beat in a rematch doesn't change the fact that you were beat by them. Did Lewis really get great vengeance by getting a silly win over a crack addict in his rematch with McCall? Did that fight mean anything? Of course not.
     
  12. Nay_Sayer

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    I love the way you apologize for the Klits. Fact is, even after Sanders lost to Klit the Older, Baby Klit should have demanded a Sanders rematch to erase the memory of that drubbing.

    Would anyone respect Lennox Lewis has he ducked the Rahman rematch?

    NO.

    Same logic applies here. Wlad calls himself a "champion" - he should avenge his defeats like a champion instead of letting his older brother do it for him.

    Wlad = J O K E
     
  13. dyna

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    It is pretty possible that the emotional breakdown was caused by Lewis himself. (Why wasn't he crying before the fight?)
    McCall his tactic failed the second time and he broke down.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    :lol: That's a normal response in professional boxing? Walking around the ring with your arms down, crying? Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that he was fresh out of drug rehab?:lol: Nice try.
     
  15. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Rahman had the title, Sanders didn't. Your logic is flawed.

    So Wlad was supposed to put off his pursuit of being a world champion to chase a retired man into the ring? Yeah ok.

    Time to move on, you're getting run over here.