Reason's Why Wladimir Klitschko Is Not An ATG

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  1. kh80290z

    kh80290z Active Member Full Member

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    Nayer-

    I think Vitali is a better fighter than Wlad prime for prime.

    will you rank Vitali then as all time great?
     
  2. BadDog

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    now its getting more and more ******ed.
    He destroyed Brewster in the rematch and Sanders preferred to fight his brother.
    At list open boxrec, dumb ass:patsch
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Manny himself said he didn't want Wlad near Chorisa. This is a fact. After i watched him against Vitali and Robert.H i can see exactly where he was coming from.
     
  4. KCD

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    :rofl:rofl
     
  5. BadDog

    BadDog Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Manny didn't want Wladimir to waste time with a crazy bum, who got beat up by injured Helenius and Vitaly.
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

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    Lewis not fighting Byrd would be a knock on Lewis except for the FACT that during the time Byrd was chasing Lennox, Lennox was fighting the Michael Grants, Andrew Golotas, David Tuas, Evander Holyfields and Vitali Klitschkos of the HW divsion.

    Bringing up the Byrd fight as a knock on Lewis only illustrates your utter ignorance of the HW division in particular and boxing in general.

    SAD.
     
  7. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wlad is a glass jawed fraud

    That fat retired Lewis that fought and nearly blinded his brother would've murdered any version of Wlad

    And he ducked a Sanders rematch even after his improvements with Steward and Sanders advancing age.
     
  8. Nay_Sayer

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    You Klit lickers need to S T O P.

    Wlad in No WAY, SHAPE or FORM has dominated the HW divsion like Louis or Ali did.

    Hell, Ali knocked out Sonny Liston TWICE, FFS...
     
  9. madballster

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    The old retired version of Holmes is just as worthless a win as a bum version of any other great fighter. Mercer was never even a great fighter to begin with and Wlad beat the fat shell of of a mediocre ex-contender. Worthless win. Seeing that you're making an argument that a shot Holmes is better than a shot Mercer is hyserical, Captain Obvious :hi:

    Let's try this so you get the idea: Marciano beating a fat old Louis? Worthless win.

    You get the picture? If you have to bring up Tyson's victory over a fat retired ex-champ as the single defining argument that his track record is better than Wlad's then I have to ask you if Oliver McCall's track record is better than Vitali's after knocking the living **** out of Lewis?

    What about Buster Douglas? Certainly a better record than Wlad's, considering he beat Tyson? :yep
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Im not saying Chorisa would win. But his style would of been a good fight for Wlad. They didn't take the risk. They're still not taking risks.
     
  11. Nay_Sayer

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    No. He lost by KO to the two best HWs he fought and he's never beaten a HOF caliber HW. Vitali doesn't have the credentials of an ATG, IMO...
     
  12. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nearly being permanently damaged by retired Lewis makes him an ATG lol
     
  13. KCD

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    Michael Grant was a bum, hype job.

    David Tua lost every time he stepped up, also against Byrd (who clowned him).

    Golota whilst a good fighter wasnt right due to an injection he had prior to the fight ( wasn't Lewis's fault and it was a good win). But in the great scheme of things Lewis was the first but not the last to get Golota out of there early, and Byrds career was far more successful than Golotas.

    Holyfield I can't argue with and neither Vitali, but regardless of how you want to twist history outside of Lewis and Holyfield, Lewis didn't fight the two top fighters in the division Byrd and Ruiz.
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlad's chin has to be one of the worst at HW. He is terrified of getting hit. I can see him avoiding the big hitters that are emerging before retiring.
     
  15. stanislove12

    stanislove12 Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad actually has a solid Chin, he was hit pretty damn hard by sanders and got up every time... a weak chin would have been out cold. Wlad doesn't like to be hit thats for sure... but who does?