Referee - Tony Perez 'I Should Have DQ'd Muhammad Ali'

First I heard Kinshasa was in NYState
Ali's next 8 fights ,after Frazier 2 were outside NYatsch

 

I'm not claiming that Muhammad did n't go over the top with the amount of clinches,but I don't see it making any signifigant difference to the end result.
Ali would still have won on that night no matter what.

 

Who in hell are you to decide that?

 

Angelo Dundee's niece. :huh :hey

All of the Senor Pepe haters need to cool it... Save for some of his slick jabs at Ray Leonard, he adds a lot of color and character to this lovely little forum and sparks invigorating debate.

 

A boxing fan same as you are. We all have our opinions,and that happens to be mine. Nobody else has any problem with what your own view happens to be.

 

I agree that Pepe does indeed post interesting threads. I'm CERTAINLY not one of those 'haters' whom you're referring to.

 

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Ali had the boxing powers ( ref's and judges ) on his side. Ali should not have won the 3rd Norton fight, and could have drawn or lost to Shavers. But you're right. I think Futch said he counted something like 73 holds behind the neck in the 2nd Ali vs Frazier fight.

That has nothing to do with it you reverse racists. Watch the flims for a change. You will see Pepe is correct. And the scoring in some Louis fights was horrible.

I said the Helenius vs Chosira decision was bad. Chisora won in my book. Remember that one? I call them as I see them, but if it doesn't coincide with your wanton political interests, you play the race card. " By any means necessary " would be a good motto for your sorry ass.

 

Everyone who saw the fight "live" knew Ali should have had major point deductions or a DQ added to him.

Ali pulled some of the same stuff on Foreman too.

 

Didn't Ali call Perez a '****' ?

Ali accused Perez of being paid by gamblers to save Joe from getting KO'd early.

I think Ali did what he needed to do to win, but the fight was close.
Sure, the referee could have warned him, deducted points, possibly DQ'd him because the 'neck -hold' was getting ridiculous.
I'm not sure how much Eddie Futch protested at the time. Futch was a great cornerman but seemed a very gentle man. If it was Angelo Dundee in Joe's corner you would have heard him cursing Perez in his face and that might have made an impact.
I'm not sure of this, I don't know. Just speculating.

 

It doesn't allow SPlC but I think that's what Ali called him.

 

Dundee would NEVER have allowed one of his fighter's opponents to get away with what the cheating Ali pulled in the second Frazier fight.

Props to Senor Pepe' for bringing this topic up. :good:good:good

I know the Ali Cabana Boy set don't like it, but we all need to be reminded of another one of their hero's scams now and again.