Floyd Mayweather vs Top 10 Contenders/Champions

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Hands of Iron, Nov 11, 2012.


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  1. Box702

    Box702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nobodys making any excuse I thought I stated that clearly ,"No excuses,more credit too floyd".At the end of the day he fought a 35 yr Oscar & 38 yr mosely not prime ones.Say what you will I've studied floyd among many others much longer than you have so I know what floyd is capable of & what he's not(That's not fighting dangerous opposition consistently).Floyd goes for big money fights not the best fight that could be possibly made hence Pac/Sergio.He'd go after a over hyped canela or immature kid ortiz.
     
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  2. Hands of Iron

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    Good point.
     
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  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2007

    Title Vacant
    Cory Spinks
    Roman Karmazin
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Vernon Forrest
    Joachim Alcine
    Sergei Dzindziruk
    Travis Simms
    Ike Quartey
    Verno Phillips
    Sergio Gabriel Martinez
    Leonard fought Duran
    Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik
    Hagler fought Leonard
     
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  4. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    great talent. with a good resume.

    Resume not even close to living up to his talent. Never had to fight a prime HOF'er his whole career. Which is impressive when you think he been around for 14 years.
     
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  5. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    De La Hoya's rating actually rose after the fight on account of his effort. The Annuals are year-end ratings. The 2007 would've been released in early '08, 2006 in early '07, so on.
     
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  6. Hands of Iron

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    C'mon now bball, Duran had been at 147 for over a year and taken out two top ten fighters in the division, one or them a HOFer in Carlos Palomino after a split-decision loss to Wilfred Benitez in Puerto Rico. He had been the Lineal Champ from 1976-79. Duran was the #2 Welterweight at the time Leonard fought him.

    Hagler-Leonard? That's legit. Ray had one fight in the previous five years going into it and never before at 160. What a victory! :yep

    Painfully obvious one: Carlos Monzon-Jose Napoles. Check that out. :patsch
     
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  7. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Plus Leonard retired Armondo Muniz (who, though past his best, was still good enough to rematch Palomino for the title in his previous fight), and defeated a pair of tough journeyman middleweights (Geraldo and Marcotte) while fighting just above WW . Hell, in his second pro fight he beat Willie "Fireball" Rodriguez- who would go on to become a Top 10 contender at 140lbs. In retrospect, the guy was hardly coddled at any point in his career.

    As for Mayweather, good list, Iron. Shows how consistent the guy has been throughout the last decade and a half.
     
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  8. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sometimes fighters have struggled with fighters who have come up two weight divisions to face them.,,

    e.g.

    Barney Ross fought Henry Armstrong.
    Micheal Nunn fought Marlon Starling.

    Just saying. :deal :D
     
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  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :smooch just fighting fire with fire

    but the other 2 examples I gave were better. Monzon-Naples is pretty bad as well. Good one
     
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  10. Hands of Iron

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    Yup, Muniz is another one who was still in the top ten almost right up to the fight with Leonard. Somebody mentioned to me that the Register has him listed at the time of the fight. I feel I've got a legit source considering I've seen scans of an immense collection of RING mags, and you really couldn't make this stuff up. But it's subject to human error.

    It's completely unreasonable and absurd to suggest Ray Leonard has a "thin resume". It's only top heavy because his biggest wins match any fighter in the sport.


    Could never forget Armstrong over Ross! One of the best wins ever IMO. :deal
     
    Hands of Iron, Nov 12, 2012
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  11. SJS19

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    Duran had been at WW for atleast a year by the time he fought Leonard. Him moving directly up from LW to fight Ray is a myth.
     
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  12. bjl12

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    Do you want to blow him?
     
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  13. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Duran turned heads with this performance:

    The skill, the feints, the infighting, the defense.. :shock:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-cS0FDWO0&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-cS0FDWO0&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnSKJwGmjvI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnSKJwGmjvI&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
     
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  14. Jaguar

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    So the pull counter is the litmus test for all of Floyd's fights? You say that DLH and Mosley were old. That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. However you are not giving Floyd credit for what he did in both those fights. Hate him or love him the man is a phenomenal fighter and when haters discount his accomplishments in the ring, I don't understand it.
     
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  15. SJS19

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