Isn't it funny how most UFC fans don't like boxing, yet want to see more stand up?

Whilst I quite like MMA, the thing it will never have compared to boxing is the gutsy rounds that one sees in the 9th round of Ward-Gatti, because as soon as someone was hurt like Gatti was, he would get finished and not have the chance to display such courage.

Similarly, you will never see something like the 10th round of Corrales/Castillo play itself out in MMA.

 

Um, watch Edgar and Maynard. :good

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Its quite apparent to most people that MMA is built to reenact one on one fighting in its most raw form as much as possible. Its a scrap, exciting, explosive brutal. Boxing is not this. There is a greater need for strategy in boxing because in MMA freak knockouts from kicks, knees and punches are far more common. Its a bit late for me to explain myself well but it is far more deep due to its focus. MMA is jack of all trades master of none, thats not an insult I'm a fan of both sports but I have never seen an MMA fight that has felt like a story in the same way some boxing fights have.

One student may study several marketing modules, finance, accounting and economics. He has a broader more complete knowledge of business as a whole. The other just studies economics. Who has the deeper knowledge? Without being rude Haggis you know its true, you do make some good points about idiotic fans on both sides of the fence

You make serious posts? This is very true its what causes the number of freak knockouts etc. What would just be flash knockdowns are more likely to end fights in MMA than boxing.

 

This is utter shite.

I'm neither an MMA guy or a Boxing guy, I'm in the middle I'm a Muay Thai guy with interests in both MMA and boxing, so I've no axe to grind either way and tend to see it from both sides.

The truth is MMA fans seem to be more opened minded about combat sports and contrary to your opening statement MMA guys like and very much respect boxing. The hate and condescending arrogance towards MMA seems to be very one way and comes very much from Boxing fans, which is proved day in day out on this forum with threads like this one. Almost all the hate on this thread is coming from Boxing fans not MMA fans. I really don’t understand why it’s all such an issue there’s enough room for all the combat sports, the more the merrier….

 

Do you have real evidence that "most UFC fans don't like boxing"?

I enjoy all types of combat sports and I think most UFC fans do as well.

Stupid thread.

 

Great post. :good

However, you are describing the very top level of skill in boxing. And at the equivalent level of skill in MMA, similar struggles and tactical considerations open up. I mean, if your primary skillset is a wrestler and you go for three takedowns against Cigano and he stuffs all of them, what next? What's your plan? You gonna go toe-to-toe and hope to lay him out with one strike? You gonna try the same thing again and again while he stuffs each takedown attempt easier than the last and punches the **** out of you while you fail to impose your gameplan on him? :good

Boxing at its highest level is art created in human movement. But then, at the highest level, that is true for virtually any sport. :good

And a LOT of boxing matches are sloppy, predictable, boring affairs. For every wrestler grinding out a decision with top control, there's a boxer keeping an outmatched, discouraged opponent on the end of a lazy jab and running the clock down.

It's pros and cons with MMA's small gloves and hard strikes from kicks and knees. Yeah it's an equalizer and a tiny mistake can cost a guy the fight. It can encourage a safety-first mindset for that reason. But it also allows for more shifts in momentum. :good

You are right in saying that there is great subtlety in boxing at the highest level.

But in the direct chess versus checkers comparison?

Checkers has only one type of piece. Boxing has only one type of attack.

Checkers pieces have very limited movements. Boxers have a very limited strike zone.

Chess pieces have a wide variety of movement options. MMA has a wide variety of combat disciplines.

In that comparison, boxing is checkers. MMA is chess. :good

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As are nearly all his threads. The guys a pathetic troll

 

I´m not sure tbh.....I think most of the MMA fans like Boxing, at least a little bit, they watch the important fights....

 

Also, with boxing you can always break it down to very simple components.

You judge your distance. You select your punch. You throw it. It lands or it doesn't. Rinse. Repeat.

In MMA, there is a longer chain of progression. You get the takedown. Now you start to work, and you have options. You can try to pass guard. You can look to take the back. You can try to get your hooks in. You can try to isolate an arm. Etc etc etc. There's a lot more "5 step processes" (for want of a better expression.)

I still don't know **** all about the subtleties of the ground game, but I have learned to appreciate key moments in the grappling that I didn't recognize when I started. It's fun to appreciate a little bit of the scrambling and the submission battles on the ground, the key moments oftentimes aren't immediately obvious. It's a game of subtlety just the same as boxing is, except there's a wider variety of tools available and there's a higher chance of a sudden equalizer or momentum-shifter. :good

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I'd say its very similar. The higher profile the fight, the easier it is.

When you get to 'mid-card' type of fights they're mostly 50/50.



McGrain mate, please see my last post in my thread & respond to it.

Nice one.

 

Probably yes, mostly due to the tiny gloves = higher chance of KO

Also a lot of boxing fights are mismatches, the UFC does what it can to avoid that scenario. Cherrypicking isnt rife in MMA

Also, one mistake in MMA can cost you the match. Look at Fedor Werdum

 

I've always been good at predicting the outcome of boxing matches. I'm rarely taken by surprise. MMA I'm less confident about, but I have followed boxing for a lot longer. So I don't know if I'm good at picking combat sports, or just boxing. :conf :good

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