Wladimir Klitschko now holds the record for the longest reign in HW boxing history

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  1. Hands of Iron

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    I think it's as sound of a system that could be implemented in the sport, but the idea that Robinson should've never been Champion really doesn't sit well with me because even more importantly than the "No. 1 vs No. 2" fighting for a vacated title is that the Champion who dropped it was/is fighting the division's top contenders on a consistent basis. If not, then it's a fraudulent reign and the 'Lineal Champion' loses all value and worth, without question.

    Granted, Cochrane served in the Navy for two years in 1943-44, just who the hell did he defend the title against upon winning it from Zivic in 1941 to losing it to Servo in 1945? He didn't defend against one single, solitary welterweight contender over the entirety of his "reign" in between winning and losing it? Sure, he lost to Zivic in a non-title rematch, and lost it to Servo who retired soon thereafter... Did I mention Robinson went 4-0 against these two over the same time period? In addition to beating Henry Armstrong, Jackie Wilson, Tommy Bell twice, George Costner, Izzy Jannazzo four times, Jimmy McDaniels, Norman Rubio, Tony Motisi, Joe Curcio, Sammy Angott... All - mostly highly - rated Welterweights... Hell, throw in LaMotta four times and Dellicurti who were Middleweights Robinson took coming in under the 147 limit. This is before The RING Magazine - Our Legit, Primary Rankings Body - even recognized him Champion. :blood What the hell is going on here? Time to make an exception, that.
     
  2. lufcrazy

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    Plus zivic had lost just before fighting Cochrane anyways.

    When Robinson stopped zivic he put himself head and shoulders above any other we.

    I don't care whether the number 1 is wbc, wba, lineal, who, ring, ibf or any other claim. I just care that he fights the best in the division and seeks to unify the claims.
     
  3. Hands of Iron

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    No mean feat.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Ketchel did.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Stonehands, Chagaev a third rater? I think not.


    Louis had a great run, but let not pretend any of the bum of the month guys could come close to Wlad. He would dispatch them with ease, and unlike Louis would not get stunned or floored along the way.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

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    Buster would be rendered ineffective vs the Klitschko's, wrong style but he did have Tyson's number that night and so did Holyfield...the distinction being Holyfield was consistent Buster was the right guy in the right place that night and never repeated that form....even the best version of Douglas can not land the punches against the Klitschko's that he landed on Tyson...Buster loses to the K's the way he lost to Tucker only quicker IMO
     
  7. sugarkills

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    Wlad is the most overrated heavyweight boxer of 'em all. I still do not understand why this site is so on his nuts.
     
  8. MagnaNasakki

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    Eh...Go get punched by him.
     
  9. sugarkills

    sugarkills Active Member Full Member

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    Sure, except that Wlad would be punching towards the floor because he's so much ****in' taller then me. I'd win by DQ because he'd be rabbit punching me. :lol:
     
  10. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    No, thanks! :hi:
     
  11. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude knows how to bend his knees :hey

    But, seriously. I've been in there with most of the big shots who were active before Wlad took control. He's just as good as they are, worse in a few areas, and better in a few.

    He'd hold up to anybody. If I'm on his nuts for thinking so, so be it, but he did to me what a prime, peaked Lennox Lewis and a very formidable, if old, George Foreman could not. (Throw in Holyfield, Tua, and an amateur Bowe in there, if you'd like.)

    He's pretty darn good, if you ask me.
     
  12. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are days my body wishes it had said that to my whole career :lol:
     
  13. KidDynamite

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    Wlad is the hardest hitting, fastest hands heavyweight in history according to Klit fans ... and he can KO prime Ali, Louis, Tyson, Foreman and Lewis all in the same night according to Klit fans

    He's also the most athletic with the best foot work ever as well

    Pretty high praise for a guy who can't even throw an uppercut and gets KOed by Ross freakin Puritty
     
  14. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson got waxed by one of the worst contenders he fought. Lewis fell to Rahman, Patterson to Ingo, Larry Holmes to a damn light heavyweight, good as he was.

    Point it, everybody loses at some point, to somebody, and often times, not even somebody all that awesome. It's boxing. What's more, its heavyweight boxing. Meaning it's big effing dudes trying to kill each other with gloved fists. **** just plain happens.

    He's not the most athletic. He's got good footwork, though, and pretty fast feet. He's got fast hands and one helluva right hand.

    These are just facts, as I've felt em. Being a Klitschko "fan" has little to do with it. He's hit me, I've hit him. I feel qualified to clear up what I see as not giving credit where it is due. Dog his resume.
     
  15. Hands of Iron

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    :lol:

    I only sparred once with a guy that had maybe 15 lbs on me. Wasn't really too fond of that at all. Klitschko has around 85. :-( At least it would be over quick.