Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance'

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Lets not forget that Carlos Ortiz went to Panama in May 1965, and got
    somewhat schooled by a 22 year-old who was fighting at Featherweight and
    Super-Featherweight less than a year earlier.

    Now, Carlos Ortiz could have have a 'bad night',,,,,,,,

    From what I can remember, if Carlos Ortiz had won, he was supposed to
    fight Jose Napoles next (in August 1965).

    Or maybe, he lost on purpose, so he could get the rematch in Puerto Rico
    6-months later, while by-passing Jose Napoles (who was starting to struggle
    to make 135 lbs.).
     
  2. Beer

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    :lol:Yeah, that sounds legit.
     
  3. lora

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    :lol:

    Get Napoles **** out of your arse pepe.
     
  4. Senor Pepe'

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    April 10, 1965

    Carlos Ortiz, the 28 1/2 year-old Lightweight Champion was completely and utterly
    embarrassed by light-punching Panamanian -Ismael Laguna.

    With #1 Lightweight - Jose Napoles at ringside, in hopes of a future bout with the
    Champion, we saw a shell of a fighter, as the boxing world witnessed a 'major upset'.

    Carlos Ortiz with a record of 45-4-0 {18 KO's} showed little of his skills, as he was
    supposedly weak from an illness, and had trouble making the 135 lb. weight limit.

    Most observers had Ismael Laguna winning by a score of 148-137, giving the former
    Champion only Rounds 7 and 8.

    Carlos Ortiz, 'Thank God I have a rematch clause in the contract.'
     
  5. Senor Pepe'

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    October 1965

    Jose 'Mantequilla' Napoles, the #1 Wolrd-rated Lightweight will move up to
    140 lbs. Light-Welterweight.

    The 25 1/2 year-old Cuban, can no longer wait to fight for the Lightweight Championship,
    as it appears that current Champion Ismael laguna (Panama) will be facing former
    Champion - Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico) in Puerto Rico on November 13, 1965.

    In all likelihood, Carlos Ortiz will regain his Championship, and insiders say that Carlos
    has 'no desire' to offer Jose Napoles a Championship opportunity anytime soon.

    Napoles, with a record of 42-3-0 (24 KO's) has been the #1 ranked Lightweight since
    early 1964.
     
  6. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know a puma who weighs about 135. Id make him a slight favorite over Monzon.
     
  7. the cobra

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    :rofl

    ****in' Beer, man.
     
  8. Senor Pepe'

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    By the way, Jose Napoles had a pet Chicken he called, 'Lil Carlos Ortiz'..............True Story.

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  9. D9Garrard

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    I must be missing something about Napoles. I just watched the entire defense against Clyde Gray a few weeks back, having admittedly never seen him outside of brief clips, and he looked about a half notch better than Gray, if that. Both were slick and talented, but didn't see Napoles as an ATG. What'd I miss? Bad night? Or Gray was that underrated?
     
  10. baddest

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    He's my Avatar. So smooth. w/o the cuts, and in another time. I could see him beating 4/5 of the best of the 80's
     
  11. Beer

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    That was near the end of his career. He'd slipped more than a few notches.
     
  12. red cobra

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    I f you watched Ali only against Alfredo Evangelista you might think that Ali wasn't what he was cracked up to be.
     
  13. sweet_scientist

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    Funnily enough, he didn't mind waiting in the wilderness for the next 3 years at 140-147.

    Better strategy than facing the likes of a Locche, Lane or Bizzaro and waiting his opportunity at lightweight when he was already the no.1 contender I suppose...
     
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    Try and find 60's footage of Jose (e.g. the Cokes fights, the Urbina & Pruitt fights.)

    Jose was on the decline by the time the 70's hit.
     
  15. Senor Pepe'

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    After defeating former Light-Welterweight Champion by a one-sided
    10-Round Decision in August 1965.

    The now #1 Lightweight and #1 Light-Welterweight - Jose Napoles waits,
    but will not get a shot at the Lightweight Championship.

    December 11, 1965 (El Toreo, Mexico City)

    Jose Napoles wins by (TKO 3) over #2 Light-Welterweight - American Adolph Pruitt
    16-4-2 (11 KO's).

    Napoles and Pruitt go at it, in a toe-to-toe slugfest for 2-Rounds, with each slamming
    hard punches at each other's head.

    But, in Round 3, Adolph Pruitt suffers a badly broken right hand, and cannot continue.

    Pruitt's record is deceiving, at 16-4-2. Over the past 2-years he has gone 11-0-1 (6 KO's),
    and is managed by Great - Henry Armstrong. Many had considered Adolph as
    a solid choice to win a Light-Welterweight Championship, as the guy was an animal
    in the ring.

    Jose, now at 43-3-0 (25 KO's), is now the certified #1 Light-Welterweight, and will
    pursue that Championship in 1966.