My 50 Greatest boxers of all time

Four major points I'd pick out on.

Tunney above Greb - I definitley feel this could be argued although I may not personally do it. It's certainly close though

Whitaker not in the top 50 - I think he's top 30 shoe in, arguably top 20

Holyfield as low as he is - definitely a too 25 p4p and deserves to be above Holmes for sure

Holmes as high as he is - someone who's best win was a split decision while near his prime or in his prime against a shot Norton or a green Witherspoon. Far too untested to be put that high, especially when he never looked liked win against his best opposition

 

I just checked the time: It's time for you to go read up on Greb, my man. He's the God of War. His first name was really Mars. Mars Greb.

 

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Amen.

 

This guy wants to kick your ass...

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Only three fighters since 1928 can boast to having 40+ wins over top ten contenders/champions (at the time of the fights) and Ezzard Charles is one of them. The exact number may actually be 37 if KOKid didn't miss any, but I don't think it matters too much at that point. (Robinson and Moore are the other two). Greb undoubtedly would've been there too if the monthly system existed.

 

i'm not a big fan of lists but yours is reasonable. i think it's silly to argue about who the 43rd greatest boxer of all-time is but if all of us posted a list, almost everyone would have a problem with it. de la hoya i feel overall is very underrated but i think you have him too high here. roy jones is my favorite fighter ever but i understand he's very hard to rate on these all-time lb for lb lists. if you look at mostly resume, you could put him outside the top 50. if you actually watch him fight at his best, he could easily be top 10.


edit, i just saw charles wasn't on the list. big problem. he's easily a top 10 fighter all-time.

 

My two biggest problem with the list: Ezz isn't on it, Dempsey is.

 

Bob Fitzsimmons is a top 10 P4P guy, top 15 at worst.

 

Yeah, that too. I don't like him lower than #6, actually.

Charles is a top 5 P4P guy. The sooner everyone starts accepting that, the better it will be for everyone.

 

What the heck do you know about jack Dempsey, that Sam Langford, Gene Tunney, Mickey Walker, Jack Sharkey, Max Schmeling, Ray Arcel, Lou Stillman, Damon Runyon, and the 200 boxing writers who voted him the best heavyweight in the 1950 poll didn't know ? Why would you distort history by
besmirching this great fighter and ignore the opinions of EXPERTS who saw him at his PRIME, and raved about his unique power, viciousness and
innate toughness.? It irks me to read this from someone who is BLIND to history,and who thinks "screw the people who saw him , fought him and
raved about one of the very toughest, meanest SOB's that ever stepped into a ring " .But you somehow no MORE...Oh well !.

 

He may even yes more, Burt.