ESB's 2012 "Fighter Of The Year"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Hatesrats, Nov 13, 2012.


  1. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True story, i don't hate on Ward again. But let's be real, the fashion he became the LWH king was to beat a weight-drained Dawson, who i respect to be skilled, but only has W's against old guys. If Dawson is the #1 man at the LWH division, then it tells more about the division than the fighter. I think if Pascal fixes his stamina & improve his workrate, then i'd favor Pascal to stop him in a rematch. Dawson cannot handle pressure
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    :good
     
  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's impossible to clear out a division without fighting in it. Ward would have been favored over Dawson at 175 even before Ward-Dawson took place, but it's nonsensical to say therefore say he had cleared it out without setting foot in it.
     
  4. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't clean out the LHW division. He only fought the best LHW who wasn't even at his best. Ward was a 4-1 favorite, many boxing analyst were not impressed by Dawson's performance against Hopkins, and they were concerned that Dawson's mental lapses would cause him to break down.

    The analyst were right, he did break down. Also most of Dawson's best wins were against old boxers who had low work-rates. His only win that really sticks out is Adamek.
     
  5. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point, esp considering Sergios' age.

    Then again, did anyone really expect Sergio to lose either fight?

    I still say Garcia, since his win over Kahn was more "earth shaking" than either of Maravilla's wins. Also, while most expected him to beat Morales, he did so in spectacular fashion.

    Last: Both of Garcia's wins were via KO. Sergio looked great against Macklin, and schooled / humiliated the overhyped Chavez, but two solid KO's beats one solid TKO in my book.
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    How is anyone picking either Ward or Donair?
    The're both fabulous fighters, but both faced opponents who basically showed up for the paycheck. You might as well nominate Wlad.
     
  6. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not obvious who should be named "Fighter of the Year" in 2012.
     
  7. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's no need to put down Dawson, he has a hell of a resume, none of it at 168 though.
     
  8. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Donaire is the frontrunner, by quite a bit. The other guys can only hope Arce beats him, which is some steep odds
     
  9. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why are people voting for Ward for **** sakes??? He had one fight that year
     
  10. di tullio

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    He gets on my nerves, but probably Donaire.
     
  11. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Gotta flip a coin between Ward and Garcia. Hell of a year for both. Probably gotta give it to ward though on the strength of competition.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    might as well give it to bradley for beating pacquiao. donaire is the right answer here and the more deserving one. 3 fights against ranked super bantams in vazquez jr. and mathebula and the top super bantan in nishioka. if he beats arce, no way he should not get the Fighter of the Year award.
     
  13. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can he clear LHW with 1 fight that wasnt at LHW ?

    Garcia for me, although if Froch beats Mack he's in with a shout
     
  14. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For me, Sergio Martinez.

    He beat Macklin, who is entirely under-rated at Middleweight considering he beat Sturm in all but the final result. Then to dominate Chavez Jr - a giant at the weight, so thoroughly was impressive.

    Donaire has been active but looked average against Vazquez Jr and Mathebula.

    Garcia scored two thrilling knockouts, but Morales was well past his best.

    Ward has only had one fight, and, as superb as it was, that isn't enough for me.
     
  15. OldEnglishCider

    OldEnglishCider New Member Full Member

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    Ward is the man! He's so very skilled...