Old school training routines seem to be the simplest and most effective!

Yeap,hampsters are used in s&c programs.

 

There is A LOT of boxing coaches who cant even do a proper WARM UP,i had so much moronical advices and one was from a guy with 3 aibas stars.
I read a work of his in one conditioning journal,it was called specific strength for boxers,first 2 pages were a witch hunt on weights and accusations that weights and "fitness" trainers were the downfall of mike tyson and how boxing matches are cut down from 15 to 12 rounds because of "fitness" guys atschatsch(that mother****er couldnt even guees a proper name for S&c coach).And so on and so on....

 

'er pardon my ignorance how do you use hampster and how are they or it incorporated into an S&C program. Is this one of S&C's new school ideas?
I sure am glad I stuck to old school methods.

 

I love the way you've met a few bad eggs so of course they're all bad. How ignorant of you.

I know one or two strength and conditioning coaches, personal trainers, fitness instructors, many professions from many industries. Some are extremely good in the areas they specialize in, others are complete shite. If I took your attitude I'd have label them all as crap because of the few bad ones I know of. How the **** does that make any sense? Please explain to me why they're all bad because of that few, that's exactly what your argument boils down to.

Edit: After reading this fully (I only read half of it first time and got bored of the same argument typed out again) I noticed the red part. That's what everyone is saying. If that's the case this entire thread and debate is entirely pointless.

 

Nah its one of the old school ideas.I brought it up for you cause i see you have forgot it.ccccc

Dude dont even bother,he is generalizing.Its a done deal.

 

The difference may be in real world experience. The part in red was always there, in one way or the other.
S&C are just a new name for an old task, there have always been conditioners throughout boxing history. Educate yourself, on boxing history, there has always been a head trainer and his asst, and a conditioner, duh.
You'll be surprised what these old school guys done and how advanced they were, in fact some of the stuff they were using is still be used today.
There is nothing but self servicing, self righteous BS about S&C guy and their arrogance. The title of this thread is "Old school training routines seem to be the simplest and most effective", they are, but you continue to use buzzwords to make your points, saying generalizing and blanket statements, like it means something, I hate to tell you, but you are also guilty. I will let you figure out how.

 

My university thesis was about boxing history and boxing nicknames so spare me your bull****.
Just spread your wisdom like"Weight training to me means training with weights, and training with weights can make you musclebound"
Here you demonstrated your "knowledge".

 

Here are facts:
1- Old school coaches have done very well for over two hundred yrs, in preparing boxers for whatever they had to face and they were very successful.
2- Old school guys actually had old school conditioners as they were known then
3- The training routines these old school guys used and developed are still in use today.
4- They were using private doctors in training at least 40 to 50 yrs ago.
So, just because modern technology is advanced doesn't give S&C the right to disrespect guys that have learned the old fashioned way and continue to use it. "Blanket statement alert''. The arrogance of SOME S&C, to think that only they have the knowledge to properly condition a fighter. Two of the best trainers in boxing Virgil Hunter, Freddie Roach, yes Freddie too, and John Scully are now suspect, why, because they dared say what is on most ("Blanket statement alert'') insiders minds, ARE S&C guys neccessary? The arrogance of SOME S&C, to think that only they have the knowledge to properly train a fighter is beyond reason. I am assuming you are from England, then read up on how Joe Calzaghe trained you might be surprised.
Join a team if you know so much you should be in heavy demand and STFU, prove yourself by doing not by yapping it up with those big fancy words, there is an old saying which applies here "Latin hides the stupidity of the priest."

 

OMG and you are bragging this "My university thesis was about boxing history and boxing nicknames" jeez not only are you a knowledgable S&C guy, you are an expert on boxing history and nickname.
Man, you my hero,ha ha ha o' sorry I meant LOL

 

You've got one of the highest profile trainers in the world talking absolute physiological nonsense in that article. Just think of what goes on at club level... I know and its frightening.

 

Some of the things I've heard come from the 'best' club in my city are horrific, not just stupid but incredibly dangerous. Glad I train at a club where the trainers give a **** about the safety of their fighters.

 

I cant lie about something.Nor did i say i was and expert on boxing history and nicknames.It was my thesis.
Im not an expert on s&c or boxing.Neither one of us here is.Im an ordinary amateur boxer with education,and i aint stupid,ignorant nor i mock something i dont understand.Which i cant say about you.
Btw i am not from england and i dont like calzaghe,english is not my first language.

 

I have to ask just curious, are you or Brown Bomber, amateur or pro boxers, S&C coaches, your answer will tell it all.

I am a licensed manager, and I am trying to learn something about training. Not that I am trying to be a trainer, just for my own knowledge.

One of my fighters recently fought for the world title so I have a little experience in boxing. My guy lost a clear decison to a P4P champion. I primarily deal with Mexican fighters, all have a promotional from one of the biggest promotional companies in the world of boxing. So, I do my job as a manager. Now, since I have 3 undefeated teenage fighters I am trying to educate myself as to what is what in training.

On my way to expand my mind I was ambushed by crazed S&C guys calling me an idiot, a ****, and ignorant, jeez you would think they were trying to hurt my feelings.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Some of the bad information that gets thrown out from some of the best clubs is ridiculous. The 'best' club in my city has told plenty of their boxers to starve themselves to make weight; telling young teenagers to starve themselves in absolutely moronic advice and is dangerous advice. No doubt derived from some of the ridiculous 'old school' crap. IMO trainers have a duty to at least have a basic understanding of physiology when training kids.