Andre Ward Clowning Froch On Twitter

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As a boxing fan why would you give a crap about how much a fighter makes? If it's ok for one guy to stay home than its ok for another.
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is the tweet that I found the most interesting.

    Did Ward travel to challenge Kessler? NO

    Ward would no way fight Froch in the UK.
    Ward is very smart with a great team around him, and entered a competition where all of the original contestants travelled abroad except for him.
    Froch really in a way became the S6 legend even though he didnt win
    Ward fights unwell Kessler at home, good win
    Ward then fight A Green. Is that now a top major fight and win.
    Ward then gets unfairly given 2 points when he didnt fight Dirrell.
    Ward then fights Abraham who was on a 1-2 run and had lost his last 2 S6 fights. Thats not impressive.
    Ward then fights old jaded plodder Froch and guess what? Ward was the home fighter in all of those fights.
    If anything Froch deserves to be called the S6 legend.
    He fights Dirrell at home
    Kessler in Denmark
    Abraham in Finland
    Johnson in America
    Ward in America.
    Consider that Froch was away in his fight before Dirrell, and that was against another original S6 fighter.
    So out of the 6 original S6 fighters Froch fought all of them and Johnson and was away for 5 out of those 6 fights and that takes its toll on any fighter, and with all those things against Froch and the fact that he is an old past best fighter and only lost by 2 points on 2 cards against Ward and slow old Froch was beating Ward in the last couple of rounds, then Froch fights Bute straight after who Ward didnt want to fight.
    Thats just as impressive as Ward was, never once the away fighter and had an easier run.
    Ward didnt fight one undefeated fighter in the whole of the S6

    Consider that American and American based fighters and Canadian and Canadian based fighters dont seem to be able to win big fights at SMW when fighting in Europe. Wards team are smart and didnt take the gamble.
    Consider how Lacy, Dirrell, J Taylor, Bute, Pascal, Mitchell, Brewer etc all were beaten in Europe

    In Europe
    Bute, Dirrell, Pascal, Andrade, Green, Lucas, Lacy, Manfredo, Pudwill, McIntyre, Jimenez, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell, Schommer, Holmes, Close (I said based in America), Thornton, Essett, Jarvis, McClellan, Perez, Gatti (not Arturo), Tate, Butler, G Johnson, Hernandez, Bryan
    Lost in Europe
    This just gives an idea but do consider that out of those 28 fighters 21 were or became world rated in the division, and some fought more than once in Europe.
     
  3. dendy

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    I personally don't give a **** but you are proving to be really naive if you think money doesn't matter in a business such as boxing that is a lot more complexed than you seem to think.

    Money talks, and ward is a great fighter but does not deserve the same treatment as a fighter like floyd. Anyhow, i am a firm believer that if mayweather had a solid lucrative challenge from a fighter in say europe that he would travel. Money talks bull**** walks and all.
     
  4. crazy8s

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    I'm sick of all this straw-grasping and desperate justifications.

    I hope Ward fights Froch and Kessler in their respective countries...

    just so these idiot can shut the **** up.
     
  5. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    I hope ward satisfies your hope as a fan:thumbsup
     
  6. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If the money isn't what motivates Ward than someone needs to come beat him and than they can call the shots, its that simple. In Floyds 30th fight he couldn't sell out in his hometown of Grand Rapids. Lets give Ward a chance before we start screaming he needs to do this and that. That's all im saying. So far he has been willing to fight the best. Thats all I really care about from any fighter.
     
  7. PrinceN

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    well why hasn't Forch or Kessler offered Ward 4 mil to fight in Europe?
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I doubt that will happen unless they fade a bit more than they already have

    Did Ward travel to challenge Kessler? NO

    Ward would no way fight Froch in the UK.
    Ward is very smart with a great team around him, and entered a competition where all of the original contestants travelled abroad except for him.
    Froch really in a way became the S6 legend even though he didnt win and had a far tougher route through it given to him, than Ward had
    Ward didnt fight one undefeated fighter in the whole of the S6

    Consider that American and American based fighters and Canadian and Canadian based fighters dont seem to be able to win big fights at SMW when fighting in Europe. Wards team are smart and didnt take the gamble.
    Consider how Lacy, Dirrell, J Taylor, Bute, Pascal, Mitchell, Brewer etc all were beaten in Europe

    In Europe
    Bute, Dirrell, Pascal, Andrade, Green, Lucas, Lacy, Manfredo, Pudwill, McIntyre, Jimenez, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell, Schommer, Holmes, Close (I said based in America), Thornton, Essett, Jarvis, McClellan, Perez, Gatti (not Arturo), Tate, Butler, G Johnson, Hernandez, Bryan
    Lost in Europe
    This just gives an idea but do consider that out of those 28 fighters 21 were or became world rated in the division, and some fought more than once in Europe.
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You say the same lame thing in every post. Think of something original, lol fella. :good
     
  10. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Yep but floyd has never been in a situation where his greatest challenges are from europe, where he could earn more money fighting away. nor did floyd enter a S6 WORLD boxing classic stipulating he would take no part if he had to fight around the WORLD.
     
  11. Smokin' Joe

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    Ward has fought 7 times outside of California, and many more outside of Oakland, California.

    Froch has fought 6 times outside of England in a longer career.


    :conf
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And what if it's not the money that motivates Ward, but fighting in front of his fans?
     
  13. splatter69

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    I never understood that mentality.

    Saddler koed pep in their first fight why did they rematch?

    Harry greb annihalated gene tunney the first time ..by todays way of thinking a rematch wouldnt have been warranted....

    The list goes on forever. Just because you beat someone convincingly it doesnt mean you can always beat them. believe it or not some peolple learn from their mistakes and are able to evolve their game.
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Outside of England means in another country rather than outside a state, so thats a poor post and example. Froch has fought outside of Nottingham 17 times in his career.
    Early in Frochs career he fought abroad in america. R Hatton had his 2nd fight in America, that doesnt mean a thing, as they were learning fights they were expected to win.

    Its the big fights and world title fights that are the ones that prove it, and against fighters that have a chance.
    Froch wasnt expected to lose to Porras when he travelled for that learning undercard fight when learning. But when he travelled against Taylor, he was a world champ with it all to lose.
    ward has never been tested like that, and history has shown that it probably wouldnt be wise for him to chance his arm
     
  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frich has fought 11 times in Notingham, Ward 5 times in Oakland. Kessler 19 times in Copenhagen.