Klitschko could learn something from Cleverly

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  1. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody noticed the Cleverly fight in America and if it wasn't for Showtimes new policy of showing all the undercards it wouldn't have made it on TV. I always get a laugh when the British pundits talk about the 'big American debut', like when Kell Brook beat some nobody last year in Atlantic City, the Sky team were raving about him coming to America and making a splash when it wasn't even televised in that country.
     
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    it's funny yeah but he's got a point.

    Wlad had a dead man walking in front of him, and all he did was up the tempo, slightly.

    He's not a finisher, he throws his punches the same all the time, never with bad intentions, luckily thats enough to get it done, most of the time
     
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  5. stebinn

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    Well Wlad just does not take chances like that. One of the reasons for his early losses was his lack of stamina after throwing a lot of punches and gassing out. I doubt he´s gonna change that because a Super Middleweight was slightly entertaining somewhere in Britain. Plus I have no idea why they are comparing the two. One is a 168 pound volume puncher, the other a nearly 250 pound heavyweight.
    But Yeah Wlad go on and change your whole gameplan that made you a success.
     
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    Wlad couldn't add any more tempo. He was close to gassing himself out in round 8. You can **** on Wlad saying his stamina sucks, or even say his punching power ain't good enough. I wouldn't argue with that.

    But saying Wlad held back and did not throw the kitchen sink and then some at Wach is just plain ridiculous :deal

    Bunce is a ****ing idiot.
     
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    Exactly. Comparing different weight categories is embarassing himself; peoples that says that kind of things
    1- doesn't remember that that was a fight of literally GIANTS
    2- Wach has (or, better, HAD ) an huhuman chin; he was seriously hurted, often, but he never even had bambi legs, nothing; nobody else could have taken him down, Wladimir did an impressive performance in the 7th round, but he seriously risked to gass out (remember: they are HW, NOT cruisers, NOT middleweights, they have muscle masses that burns TONS of oxygen)
    3- Actual Wladimir's style is unique, and has been forged in 8 ****ING YEARS by Emmanuel Steward, a legendary trainer that almost anybody thinks to be smarter than him (!!!) ; it is perfect in the way that allows high accuracy, little exposure (with the excellent footwork and mobility of Wlad), and very high damage output, that forces the opponent to rarely opens up; if you think that you are a better tachnician than Manny and a men that koed 50 OPPONENTS, you're welcome;

    --To sum it up: Wladimir showed his best performance of the year, and probably of the last years; Emmanuel would have been proud by his conditioning degree; Wach survived for unknown reasons, but he'll probably develop Parkinsons or other diseases in the future.
     
  8. Slyk

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    Look at this ****ing drivel. People on ESB always try to say it's just a select few brittards that make the rest look bad, but this guy is a highly ranked figure in british media and he's coming out with this ****? It's no wonder brits come across as some of the most biased and clueless posters on the site when this guy is given a prominent voice in sports media.

    Embarrassing article. It looks like some amateur hour **** off the ESB front page.
     
  9. BunnyGibbons

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    At the very least, Wlad should consider wearing a headband & using Basshunter as his ringwalk music.
     
  10. oibighead

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    The british commentary is a joke really

    The Alexander fight will be his real american debut.


    The only thing clevery could teach Klitshko is maths by tutoring him
     
  11. Monty90

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    I would have series qualms about him not having enough punch power? he hit's like a truck, some guys can just take horrible punishment. Wach has a boulder sized head, short neck and big shoulders so he has all the fundamentals for taking a big punch, it's not a big deal, a KO is nice but Wlad has had plenty in his career and will have plenty more i'm sure.

    Bunce is a complete clown, i can't even find words to describe the idiocy of this twit.
     
  12. Earl-hickey

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    Well then Wlad could have tried throwing an uppercut?

    Maybe attack to the body?

    Nope, jab jab straight right, just a bit faster than usual
     
  13. Slyk

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    I don't think you're aware of how you come across.

    It's very unfortunate.
     
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    Why is he an idiot, for giving his honest opinion of how the fight played out? Where has he made anything up. Highlight it for me?
    You're just another typical k2 fanboy/appoloigst who gets the anger when people speak the truth about Wlad.
    He didn't change tactics in the fight because he couldn't, the 1-2 is his entire gameplan. He has no plan b or plan c.
    A man that size the first thing to do his chop down the body. He didn't even throw one body shot on Wach. Pathetic.
    I believe Wlad hasn't landed a body shot on fighter in 5 or 6 years.
    Has he. Prove me wrong?
     
  15. stebinn

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    Why throw a punch that is not your best weapon? Wlad has used uppercuts before, against Thompson and Mercer and those uppercuts were frankly a bit limp. Why use a limp uppercut when you can use your devestating straight right. Wlad is not a schooled Bodypuncher cause it has not made sense attacking the body of men that are smaller than you in stature. But he should consider it when fighting bigger men in the future.