Floyd or Duran - Most skilled?

Chavez is one of the most skilled fighters I've ever seen. At his peak, he was damn near flawless technically. He did practically everything right.

Hagler often gets sold as a face-first brawler when he was more of a boxer/puncher who liked to move and circle quite a bit. I know you've made tons of posts about that inaccurate description of him as well.

 

Thats ok I respectfully disagree

 

No argument there. Definitely not as good. A former cyclist who didnt start boxing till he was 20 is world middleweight champion. atsch

 

I think most people on this thread have only watched a bloated and 30+ version of Duran who had had 70+ fights after dominating the LW division for nearly ten years then decided to step up and fight the P4P stars from the WM and MW divisions.

Even then he put beatings on Cuevas, Moore and Palimino as well as comfortably outpointing a prime Sugar Ray Leonard, outfighting a massive middleweight champion in Iran Barkley and give guys like Marvin Hagler and Wilfred Benitez long nights.

But the best version of Duran was before that fighting at LW, the guy was offensively brilliant, had power, could finish, knew how to set traps, could pile on pressure etc. He was also very effective in defence rolling his head near perfectly to slip or roll punches, hard to hit due to excellent movement. He could feint very well, could draw boxers in, had a great jab, excellent combination puncher, could use angles.

The fact is that Duran has a good argument for being the best all round technical boxer of all time. He fought all manor of opponents with different styles and adapted his skillset to fight very different ways in defeating them.

I can't be bothered now but I'll post some videos later to show evidence of all this.

 

You've list a lot of B level fighters as big names. William Joppy? Vinnie Paz, Robbie sim? Nino Gonazlez. Joesph Ns.

Thats like chop chop corely, angel manfreddy, Gatti level.

You talk as if Floyd isn't close to being over the hill. Go watch PBF and then watch Money and tell me if there isn't a drastic change.

Still Floyd still can find a way to dominate guys at age 36 and beat guys younger and bigger. Why? use ur brain. And he will continue to win like that for several more years. Maybe not against the young elites in a couple more years but he'll still whoop the young B levels.

As for SRL, He fought Duran Flat footed, thinking he can slug it out with Duran even though SRL is more than capable to get on his bike.

 

There comes a point where you have to concede that the best way to analyse this is to pit them-both past their prime and unable to rely on physical advantages- against the fearsome pure technique of pillow fisted Ayub Kalule at 154.

Floyd from the Oscar fight is beaten relatively widely and in comfortable dull fashion via superior reach long straight lefts of accurate doom and quick Napoles'esque halfsteps back out of range, while Floyd is trying to potshot single righthand leads and backing ineffectually to the ropes far too often.

Duran from Moore finds a way to win through freakish defensive radar and ring-centre slipping\countering and distance control.Probably some savagely skillful fouling too.

 

FYI you know **** ALL:deal

FYI you muppet SRL has always fought that way & why should'nt he, BIGGER/STRONGER/FASTER/YOUNGER & he still got outboxed + don't you think that someone with the ring IQ of Leonard would'nt have a plan B, Out of his own mouth came the words "I tried everything" But Duran was always one step ahead of me:deal

You say Floyd has fought more big names:rofl when was the last time that **** fought a live opponant who was'nt on the downside or from lower weights or just plain brain damaged like Ortiz Squeaks past an old man in DLH then legs it! Fights WBU-B level Hatton, drags counterpuncher Marquez up from Lightweight, Baldimir who could'nt outsprint a bag of cement! Gatti!! Washed up punchbag pug! Cotto! Never the same fighter after those 2 hammerings at the hands of Margo & Pacman. WOW what a resume.

You ever heard of Marvin Hagler you mug! Wilfred Benitez! Carlos Palomino! this is just 3 he took on 2 & 4 weights above his natural weight & pushing 30 & 33 years of age, he took on the monster Hagler at 32 who SRL & Hearns wanted no part of for obvious health reasons. Duran DUCKED NO ONE & FOUGHT EVERYONE put in front of him regardless of the handicap of age & weight, whilst your girl Floyd has created a whole new lexicon to get out of any possible danger, stating Vacation! Health! No Interest! Tests! Give me ALL the MONEY! Now **** off back to the MMA forum.

 

Yeah but Floyd never quit like a ***** in the middle of a fight infront of his fans nor has anyone quite as epicly as Duran did.

 

Accurate doom.

 

Floyd fights guys on the downside? Is ok to dislike the guy but no need to make lies. Floyd has been fighting guys coming off sensational wins. So you should do some research before u post.

Again. Duran losing late in his career is his problem. Duran losing to bigger guys is also his problem. Duran losing to b level fighters is still his problem. When Floyd start doing the same thing it will be his problem.

 

If that was truly the case, Duran likely gets KO'ed. Leonard was just outskilled, on about every level and front. He found Duran almost impossible to land on clean with any type of consistentcy and was buckled several times by sharp, accurate counter shots without Duran even needing to get inside.

 

Floyd has been fighting top 10 guys even before his first title match with Generado Henderaz.

 

He fought the wrong opponent.

 

Embarrassing posts, minus Hands of Stone's and several others.