New Marquez Training Pics ALSO PAC PHOTO

Right, so looking at weigh in pics is decent evidence of someone not using PEDs, but hiring a leading expert in PEDs into your camp under a pseudonym isn't good evidence?

Although it is utterly ridiculous to compare weigh in photos to disprove PED use, I think its pretty important to note that one of those pics is at his natural weight and one is two divisions above. There's an 10lb of solid muscle added in the second pic.




Let's compare his attempts at fighting at 147lbs . . .


Vs Mayweather (Before hiring PED dealer and expert):

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Vs Pacquiao (After working with Heredia)

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:rofl

 

Dinamita fans condone the juice.

 

I think what most people are trying to point out is that while He did seem bigger He is even more ripped and JMMs body was never like that.

Even Pac became abit softer going up in weight (not saying He wasnt on the AMeth).

 

Still waiting? You're using weigh in pics as some sort of evidence that he doesn't use PEDS (while saying the fact that he has hired a PED expert isn't evidence to that he does).

 

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:rofl JMM in this pre-training pic (III) not even flexing and his 8 pack is bursting out making Rios and Garcia look like slothful bums

 

Why not? Everyone here wants to use pictures of his body in training to 'prove' he's on them.

2 points.

It's not '10 lbs of solid muscle' because he didn't come into the ring at 147. Secondly his training camp for Mayweather was infamously shambolic, as you should know. Lifting rocks and other pointless ****. Contributed to the below par performance.

I'm more interested in how you explain his lower workrate, power and speed in the 3rd Pacquiao fight compared to previous fights.

 

Lol....they said **** that we got robbed 3 times were goin all out, and roided JMM the **** out

Juan SMASH

 

Do you think PEDs are a miracle drug or something?

 

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If they don't increase your stamina, work rate, help you keep your speed and power at a higher weight, what do they do Shaun? And what's the point of taking them? :think

 

It makes you more competitive at the highest level even when you're pushing 40. While a few years back, guys like Juan Diaz and Michael Katsidis were giving you hell.

 

Thy can generally be used to facilitate your training to well beyond what you would normally be able to accomplish, him coming in looking like a beast would make sense if he had been training with some sort of peds

However I'd assume it would have translated in the ring as such

 

Competitive how?

By increasing your work rate, stamina, helping you keep your power and speed at a higher weight. None of which happened in Pacquiao III.

 

RIP Pacquiao.

 

However I'm uncomfortable with accusing Juan, or seeing him be accused by the same people who think all of team Pacquaios scrabbling and excuses over drug testing meant he was clean, and went to great lengths to point out how amoral it was to suggest otherwise

I'd rather stick with "they are all on it at the top level"